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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Ok Stefan, Well , we can only wait and watch ! , there are 14 monitors at the moment , just hope , switched to OP32 It is summer , may be 136 activity was not expected , could be on vacation etc ? Audio band for OP32 is 100 Hz 1500 to 1600 Hz with +/- 2 Hz total system stability requirement , this should not be a problem [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 T_OBFU_GIF_ATTACH BODY: GIF attachment with generic MIME type 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 80dfd4418e586cee7526d670ae10acbc Subject: Re: LF: Good OP8 results .. Q 136 OP32 Test ? 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Audio band for OP32 is 100 Hz 1500 to 1600 Hz with +/- 2 Hz = total system stability requirement , this should not be a = problem=20 GL 73 -G.. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:05 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Good OP8 results .. Q 136 OP32 Test ? Hi Graham,=20 I do not doubt that W1VD will decode me on OP32 these days. But are = there others like VO1NA? I also wrote an email to him but got no answer = so far. What about VE1VDM? 73, Stefan Am 22.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Graham:=20 Remarkable results using OP8 on on 136 from Stefan, Mike and = Tom both reaching TF3HZ 1858 Km and RN3AGC / RX3QFM , though = not at the same s/n level !, but both decoding inside the OP8 = limits=20 While the condx, appeared not to support TA propagation , this = would be a good opportunity to to test the OP32 mode Could we ask, those using Opera OP8 on 136 to change to OP32 for = any overnight or other beacon activity for comparison ? OP32 offer's a 6 dB lower decode s/n , but with X4 longer tx = 'times' may provide range extension greater than predicted by s/n = , the system working by average power along the time line , being = able to take advantage of qsb and flash events .. Thanks All=20 Graham G0NBD INFO :- Follow the progress of Op8 tests and other 136 activity on Mikes Blog, http://g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk/ 400 mW ERP >> 136kHz Op8 to Iceland and Russia Transmitted an Opera8 beacon again overnight on the 136kHz band and = got reports from RN3AGC, RX3QFM and TF3HZ (-32dB). The Icelandic station produced = five decodes between 0022 and 0202. Best distance was 2681km to RX3QFM. = Highlights were as follows: 02:02 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -35 dB in Reykjavik 01:37 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -31 dB in Reykjavik 01:12 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik 00:47 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik 00:47 136 G3XDV de RX3QFM Op8 2681 km -33 dB in KO91OO 00:22 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik 00:22 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -34 dB in Moscow 23:57 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -31 dB in Moscow ------=_NextPart_001_00E8_01CD6847.0015AE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Stefan,
 
Well , we can only  wait  and  watch  ! , = there =20 are  14  monitors  at the  moment , just  = hope  ,=20 switched  to  OP32
It is  summer , may be  136  activity  = was =20 not  expected , could be  on vacation etc ?
 
Audio  band  for  OP32  is   100 = Hz =20 1500  to  1600 Hz  with  +/-   2 = Hz  =20 total  system  stability  requirement  , this  = should=20 not  be a  problem
 
GL 73 -G..

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Good OP8 results .. Q 136 OP32 Test=20 ?

Hi Graham,

I do not doubt that W1VD will decode = me on=20 OP32 these days. But are there others like VO1NA? I also wrote an email = to him=20 but got no answer so far. What about VE1VDM?

73, Stefan

Am = 22.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Graham:=20
Remarkable   results  using   OP8  = on=20 on  136  from  Stefan,  Mike and  Tom=20  both  reaching  TF3HZ    1858 = Km  =20 and   RN3AGC / RX3QFM , though  not  at = the =20 same  s/n level !, but  both  decoding  inside = the =20 OP8 limits
 
While the condx, appeared  not to  support  TA=20 propagation  , this  would  be a  good =20 opportunity  to  to  test the  OP32 mode
 
Could we ask, those using  Opera OP8  =  on 136=20 to  change to  OP32  for  any overnight  = or =20 other  beacon  activity for comparison ?
 
OP32  offer's  a  6 dB lower  decode = s/n  ,=20 but  with  X4   longer  tx 'times'  may  = provide  range  extension greater than  predicted  = by  s/n , the  system working  by  average =20 power  along the  time  line , being  able = to =20 take  advantage of  qsb  and  flash  events = ..
 
Thanks  All
 
Graham
G0NBD
 
INFO :-
 
Follow the progress of Op8 tests and other 136 activity on Mikes=20 Blog,

http://g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk/

400=20 mW   ERP >>  136kHz Op8 to Iceland and=20 Russia

Transmitted an Opera8 beacon again overnight on the = 136kHz band=20 and got reports
from RN3AGC, RX3QFM and TF3HZ (-32dB). The = Icelandic=20 station produced five
decodes between 0022 and 0202. Best distance = was=20 2681km to RX3QFM. Highlights
were as follows:

02:02 136 = G3XDV de=20 TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -35 dB in Reykjavik
01:37 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 = 1858 km=20 -31 dB in Reykjavik
01:12 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in=20 Reykjavik
00:47 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in = Reykjavik
00:47=20 136 G3XDV de RX3QFM Op8 2681 km -33 dB in KO91OO
00:22 136 G3XDV de = TF3HZ=20 Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik
00:22 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 = km -34=20 dB in Moscow
23:57 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -31 dB in=20 Moscow
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