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[...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [217.146.183.244 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501817920:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m237.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad34ff610e65e37 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi stefam/Ha-Jo....when I did this I chose a pair of crystal that mixes to one end of the band then pulled one upwards and the other downwards simultaneously. There still is a slight drift problem but id chosed carefull the drift on the two crystals is the same so the difference cancels it out. The remaining problem is due to the tempco of the tuning components. I also used a diferential variable capacitor for the tuning. Good quality caps are just as essenial as with VFOs. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators > Dear Stefan, > > Yes. xtal 7,02 MHz will run stable, and xtal 6,5536 MHz must be pulled > down by 12,6 kHz to 6,5410 MHz. A coil in series to the crystal and the > tuning capacitor will do this, in its simpiest form by using a molded rf > choke. > > Or 7,0200 MHz is adjusted for 7,0256 MHz, then 6,5536 Mhz will deliver a > difference frequency of 472 kHz. And when 6,5536 MHz is pulled down to > 5.6466 MHz, the difference will be 479 kHz. > > OK? > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > "Stefan Schäfer" schrieb: >> Hello Ha-Jo, >> >> Can you pull one of the xtals to cover the whole band? >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 05.07.2012 20:57, schrieb hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > the only parts I have bought so far for MF (still beeing engaged in >> > other developments) are two crystals: 6,5536 MHz and 7,0200 MHz, to be >> > mixed with each other. The mixer is another bipolar transistor, and its >> > emitter current is being keyed. A final source follower after the >> > low-pass filter will deliver the output to 50 ohms. >> > >> > The same solution I have also used on LF. >> > >> > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >