Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 55EAD380000B3; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SlMxu-0005uR-LW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:25:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SlMxu-0005uI-6b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:25:38 +0100 Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com ([209.85.217.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SlMxr-000525-Pq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:25:37 +0100 Received: by lbom4 with SMTP id m4so15044819lbo.16 for ; Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8OJK/bL91DDmlysF3tJ7RTWZgOfzR5iD9LQA+OD6Wbs=; b=k6lkjL0uy/bohskFmW/QtKWAodb6mgGXMrwQTvp5KAhrnKuQXEnGmoyxyX2EWvPx4f UebGL0qKxskqhG/gAwFoliQSwtsSaJMoA0vQ64l1FKZ/eRmP0irrgtiI636b6moNMYdT hnf6etJ4OStW9C01U78hSoqqgqUVqU+1yDQsWrGEmiEEGA6xHGZLsaRizJiWm8Z/xgIG KPvt9Vp15qJfoa4opgaFKQm33iLJ5ShRkUE0DqxqWw/sZXCS/mh63g3dTGR1WqytXAOY 2XnGsWt/2eQA4jm5CVqwvD8OoqVl6tQ9SZuX9KuZ9BOO3hh+wkAzv8m6RJaZnY7Km2oj nA4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.99 with SMTP id sl3mr9583586lab.44.1341159933379; Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.7.131 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006101cd57a3$92fa37d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <006101cd57a3$92fa37d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 18:25:33 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Sc7cvnMqfEKUYBG5StjW1wzdVkg Message-ID: From: PA7EY To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Mal, I was surprized to see your call on Opera. Yes, your observations are correct, in the sense that most of the receivers aren't that bad, neither are the antenna's looking at them as plain transducers to/from EM-waves. The man-made local noise is what makes things so bad. Living in a dense urban environment has its disadvantages...... 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Yes, your observations are correct, in the sense that most of the receivers aren't that bad, neither are the antenna's looking at them as plain transducers to/from EM-waves. The man-made local noise is what makes things so bad. Living in a dense urban environment has its disadvantages...... Nevertheless, LF/MF is very enjoyable for most of us I guess. I am still busy finding and eliminating sources of noise in my home and neighbourhood, quite challenging at times, but part of the fun as well. Not transmitting yet, but working on that too, hope to meet you on MF/LF in the future, al well as all other LF/MF "addicts" 73 Ulrich, PA7EY 2012/7/1 mal hamilton > ** > Just looking at PA0A reports and they look vy poor which would > indicate poor receivers es antennas, whereas my report was +3 dB > > g3kev > > --e89a8f2346ff6a841204c3c7219d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal,

I was surprized to see your call on Opera.
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Yes, your observations are correct, in the sense that m= ost of the receivers aren't that bad, neither are the antenna's loo= king at them as plain transducers to/from EM-waves. The man-made local nois= e is what makes things so bad. Living in a dense urban environment has its = disadvantages......

Nevertheless, LF/MF is very enjoyable for most of us I = guess.
I am still busy finding and eliminating sources of noise i= n my home and neighbourhood, quite challenging at times, but part of the fu= n as well.

Not transmitting yet, but working on that too, hope to = meet you on MF/LF in the =A0future, al well as all other LF/MF "addict= s"
=A0
73 Ulrich, PA7EY

2012/7/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
=A0=A0=A0 Just looking at PA0A reports and they= =20 look vy poor which would indicate poor receivers es antennas, whereas my re= port=20 was +3 dB
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g3kev
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