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Content preview: Stefan, My first decodes on 630m. 20:39 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -29 dB in IO83qo nr Preston 20:43 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -21 dB in IO83qo nr Preston [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.26 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.3 HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD BODY: HTML font face is not a word X-Scan-Signature: 97d297fb43efebda8bf3a6ea2331e7e5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bb17b678-d082-488c-84b7-4596e0178cd4_" Subject: RE: LF: OPERA Question X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:474209408:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608c4ffc999b1f77 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_bb17b678-d082-488c-84b7-4596e0178cd4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan=2C My first decodes on 630m.=20 =09 =09 =09 20:39 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -29 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 20:43 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -21 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 20:47 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -25 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 20:52 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -20 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 20:57 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -17 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 21:01 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -18 dB in IO83qo nr Preston =09 =09 73=2C Gary - G4WGT. Date: Tue=2C 10 Jul 2012 21:00:16 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question =20 Gary=2C G..=2C=20 Did you ever thought that i will download this program? =3B-) I did. Was just transmitting the first sequence 478.875. Not sure if i did it correctly. Also the optocoupler which keys the PA may need a parallel R. Will see in the evening. Questions: How can i disable that nerving key tone if i use the RS232 output instead of a HF TRX? If i want to listen music during transmitting i cannot disable it... Next=2C how can i disable the infos about opera stations of other bands? Why is the frequency range for 630m partly outside the range (i.e. 478.6...479.8) ????=20 73=2C Stefan/DK7FC PS: 2 hours in the night is for CW though :-) Am 10.07.2012 18:20=2C schrieb Gary G4WGT: =20 Hi Stefan=2C =20 If you download & install Opera you can click "Frequency" on the top menu bar. This dropdown will show you the USB dial frequency & the decode frequency range for each band. =20 Opera is not intended for random frequency use as the decode frequency range is small. If you do choose another USB dial frequency for a test or similar you will need to notify other users of your non-standard USB dial frequency or no one will know you are transmitting there=2C very similar to WSPR. =20 73. =20 Gary - G4WGT. =20 =20 Date: Tue=2C 10 Jul 2012 15:21:18 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: OPERA Question =20 Opera experts=2C=20 =20 I have a simple question to Opera. If the program keys a PTT of a PA like a CW key and the operator can choose the frequency where he transmits=2C what is the range of frequencies where a decode can be expected from someone who set his RX to e.g. 477 kHz? Is it a USB bandwidth=2C so maybe from 300...3000 Hz=2C i.e. 477.3...480 kHz?? Can i completely free decide where i want to transmit on? And if someone decides to let Opera choose the transmit frequency in that band (e.g. by using a HF TRX and a transverter)=2C where does the program usually transmit. Is is accidentially oder is the range much more limited? =20 73=2C Stefan/DK7FC =20 =20 Am 10.07.2012 14:29=2C schrieb M0FMT: =20 =20 Hi Graham =20 I have found that if I run 24 Watts no body hears me. If I run one Watt people hear me?? If I boost the 1 Watt rig to 4 Watts same rig people don't hear me...... dohh! It may be RF into the Opera PIC keyer? I will next time try screening the PIC keyer. But the thing is my PC decodes everything.... why?? Any ideas? =20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX =20 =20 =20 From: M0FMT To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =20 Sent: Tuesday=2C 10 July 2012=2C 11:11 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 TNX FER RPRT Am now sending op4 on 500 at 1/2 intervals on the hour and 1/2 hour very approx. Can you report please if available will try to keep it on most of afternoon. =20 =20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX =20 =20 =20 From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 Sent: Monday=2C 9 July 2012=2C 18:51 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? =20 =20 =20 =20 Pete =20 RX set 500.000 usb =2C running OP4 and WSPR rx at the moment =20 =20 GL !... G ..=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Monday=2C July 09=2C 2012 6:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =20 Subject: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Hi all While you are all testing Graham's theory on optimum band usage could you report my OP4 transmissions. I am using the stand alone PIC 'JNT designed Opera keyer switching my all Valve (Tube for our Cousins) TX. Power now increased to four (4) Watts O/P from the original 1Watt at the antenna up lead. Antenna up lead abt 40 ft x 128ft long E/W. from IO91UX. 73 Pete M0fmt. =20 =20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 = --_bb17b678-d082-488c-84b7-4596e0178cd4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan=2C
 =3B
My first decodes on 630m.
 =3B

20:39 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -29 dB in IO8= 3qo nr Preston
20:43 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -21 dB in IO83qo nr Preston=
20:47 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -25 dB in IO83qo nr Preston=
20:52 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -20 dB in IO83qo nr Preston=
20:57 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -17 dB in IO83qo nr Preston=
21:01 477 DK7FC de G4WGT Op4 909 km -18 dB in IO83qo nr Preston=

 =3B
73=2C Gary - G4WGT.
 =3B
Date: Tue=2C 10 Jul 2012 21:00:1= 6 +0200
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question

=20 Gary=2C G..=2C

Did you ever thought that i will download this program? =3B-) I did.
Was just transmitting the first sequence 478.875.
Not sure if i did it correctly. Also the optocoupler which keys the PA may need a parallel R. Will see in the evening.

Questions:
How can i disable that nerving key tone if i use the RS232 output instead of a HF TRX? If i want to listen music during transmitting i cannot disable it...
Next=2C how can i disable the infos about opera stations of other bands? Why is the frequency range for 630m partly outside the range (i.e. 478.6...479.8) ????

73=2C Stefan/DK7FC

PS: 2 hours in the night is for CW though :-)

Am 10.07.2012 18:20=2C schrieb Gary G4WGT:
Hi Stefan=2C
 =3B
If you download &=3B install Opera you can click "Frequency" =3Bon the =3Btop menu bar. This dropdown will show you the USB dial frequency &=3B the decode frequency =3Brange for each band.
 =3B
Opera is not intended =3Bfor random frequency use as the decode frequen= cy range is small. If you do choose another USB dial =3Bfrequency =3Bf= or a =3Btest or similar you will need to notify other users of your non-standard =3B= USB dial frequency or no one will know you are transmitting there=2C very similar to WSPR.
 =3B
73.
 =3B
Gary - G4WGT.
 =3B
Date: Tue=2C 10 Jul 2012 15:21:18 +0200
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: OPERA Question

Opera experts=2C

I have a simple question to Opera. If the program keys a PTT of a PA like a CW key and the operator can choose the frequency where he transmits=2C what is the range of frequencies where a decode can be expected from someone who set his RX to e.g. 477 kHz? Is it a USB bandwidth=2C so maybe from 300...3000 Hz=2C i.e. 477.3...480 kHz?? Can i completely free decide where i want to transmit on?
And if someone decides to let Opera choose the transmit frequency in that band (e.g. by using a HF TRX and a transverter)=2C where does the program usually transmit. Is is accidentially oder is the range much more limited?

73=2C Stefan/DK7FC


Am 10.07.2012 14:29=2C schrieb M0FMT:
Hi Graham
 =3B
I have found that if I run 24 Watts no body hears me. If I run one Watt people hear me?? If I boost the 1 Watt rig to 4 Watts same rig =3Bpeople don't hear me...... dohh! It may be RF into the Opera PIC keyer? I will next time try screening the PIC keyer. But the thing is my PC decodes everything.... why?? Any ideas?
 =3B
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: M0FMT <=3Bm0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>=3B
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <=3Brsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=3B
Sent: Tuesday=2C 1= 0 July 2012=2C 11:11
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ?

TNX FER RPRT
Am now sending op4 on 500 at 1/2 intervals on the hour and 1/2 hour very approx. Can you report please if available will try to keep it on most of afternoon.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: Graham <=3Bg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=3B
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday=2C = 9 July 2012=2C 18:51
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ?

Pete
 =3B
RX set =3B 500.000 =3B usb =2C =3B =3B running=  =3B =3B OP4 =3B and =3B =3B WSPR =3B rx =3B at the =3B moment =3B
 =3B
GL !... G ..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Monday=2C July 09=2C 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: LF: OPERA MONITOR Now ?

Hi all
While you are all testing Graham's theory on optimum band usage could you report my OP4 transmissions. I am using the stand alone PIC 'JNT designed Opera keyer switching my all Valve (Tube for our Cousins) TX.
Power now increased to four (4) Watts O/P from the original 1Watt at the antenna up lead. Antenna up lead abt 40 ft x 128ft long E/W. from IO91UX.
73 Pete M0fmt.
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
 =3B

 =3B =3B =3B =3B




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