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[...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [194.134.42.55 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 3d0ae5b4ae8b74dc4bf5c1dbe3fef430 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Analog oscillators Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:429946016:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40824ff5d7d16f01 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, the W1VD link looks very nice,the dual gate mosfet is a very good buffer circuit to prevent pulling.Getting the best stability you probably won't manage in an evening but making it work won't be a problem.I do have all = the stuff to be active on 500 KHZ and I made it over the pond.At this moment however I am more active making low power qrss beacons on HF,30m and 40m.Maby one of these days I will setup 500KHz again and work you on this band. 73 Victor -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Stefan Sch=E4fer Verzonden: donderdag 5 juli 2012 19:10 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators Hi Victor, Am 05.07.2012 19:00, schrieb victor13@online.nl: > Hello Stefan, > > for narrowband vfo i get best results with a clap or a seiler,both with big > parallel c over the FET.But of course everything depends on the mechani= cal > stability and the quality of the parts: ceramic coilformer,silvered mic= a > capacitors and tempcompensation with N750 ceramic capacitors.With trial and > error you may get very good results. OK, tnx. Years ago i built a 137 kHz oscillator (by DJ2EY) which used diffent capacitors for temperature compensation. I will see what i get... > Use big parts,temprise will be less,so > stability will be better.. > That sounds convincing, tnx. Meanwhile the output stage is built, once again using a ICL7667. I would like to use a JFET. And i found a nice link in the web, of course from W1VD: http://www.w1vd.com/16080VFO.pdf That is nice and i have all the parts here. I will build it and hope to try it in the evening :-) BTW are you QRV on 500 CW as well? 73, Stefan > GL > 73 > Victor > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Stefan Sch=E4fer > Verzonden: donderdag 5 juli 2012 18:32 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: Analog oscillators > > > LF/MF, > > I want to build an analog oscillator running on 1888....1916 kHz. It > will be used as the input VFO for my PA which divides the frequency by = 4 > internally. A metallic box with 12V input voltage cables and a RG174 > cable for the output is already available. Also a 78L05 with its 100nF > Cs is mounted. Later i can label the scale directly with 472...479 kHz, > so the need to divde by 4 in my head will not be necessary any more. > > The output voltage should be arround 12V. The curve form is not > critical, it does not need to be a clear sine wave. However the > frequency should be as stable as possible. > > So, what is the best oscillator circuit? Are there strong differences > regarding stability or is it always a question of the temperature? Ah, > it must be a LC oscillator. The adjusting part is a variable C of 33pF > with a 6mm axis. > > There are a lot of circuits in the web but maybe one principe is to be > preferred.. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > >