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Content preview: Yes , with one correction , ( for audio drive) The carrier placement routine, when Tx is selected , scans the Rx audio band and selects the lowest s/n spot frequency in that range So if you are using a transverter (or on frequency exciter ) then the TX frequency is decided by the audio drive frequency inside the limits (red-lines) for that mode/speed [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 1c38f63d01970a2bf149f660c9cb2a37 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:447309376:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60154ffc510e7014 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Yes , with one correction , ( for audio drive) The carrier placement routine, when Tx is selected , scans the Rx audio band and selects the lowest s/n spot frequency in that range So if you are using a transverter (or on frequency exciter ) then the TX frequency is decided by the audio drive frequency inside the limits (red-lines) for that mode/speed If using manual frequency selection, then a Tx frequency must be selected, that will produce a carrier/hetrodyne that falls inside the audio pass band (red-lines) defined by convention as 'dial set usb frequency' Changing the speed also requires a change of frequency to place the carrier inside the correct filter , automated if using audio-drive. Narrow IF filters are not desirable and reduce the performance of the demodulator , better simply use SSB filter NB : The pass band edges are quite sharp , so ensure you are 'inside' and not 'on the line' or you may fail to decode ....... also tx / rx frequency alignment may place you out side .... i Keying , recommended that the TX be held in 'tx' , to prevent tx/rx change over times from altering the keying times .... not 100% a problem , but to enable decodes the lower levels , time +/- and frequency +/- need to be as close to the generated values as possible GL ..73 -G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:58 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question > Stefan, > > Download the Opera program. In the waterfall you will see two red lines, > put the cursor on the lines and read the frequency (upper left window of > the waterfall display) Op4 differs from Op8 etc a frequency within this > band is the input of the USB TX so 477kHz + (a frequency between the red > lines). When using CAT control Opera will choose a not occupied freq. in > the appropriate pass band. > > 73, Albert > >