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(smtp@netlabitalia.it@94.165.114.63) by authsmtp.register.it with ESMTPA; 26 Jul 2012 13:21:49 -0000 References: <50113D08.8020407@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> From: IZ2JGB X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <50113D08.8020407@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-Id: <89652B80-2CDA-4F07-8045-772B7DD0A31D@arimi.it> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:21:43 +0200 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 81.88.48.57 (authsmtp07.register.it) used invalid HELO/EHLO authsmtp.register.it - verification failed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Stefan, I'll need to find a roll of suitable wire first :) What Are you using ? I have seen some Fishermans using inox wire that looks very strong! Thanks for your usual useful answer ! 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I have seen some Fishermans using inox wire that looks very strong! Thanks for your usual useful answer ! Now time for a swim. Let's park the kite .. Bye, Giorgio=20 Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 26/lug/2012, alle ore 14:50, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer ha scritto: > Hello Giorgio, >=20 > Am 26.07.2012 14:13, schrieb IZ2JGB: >>=20 >> Hello group, >>=20 >> While resting a little on The local beach in Numana , Italy, i've managed= a good >> Deal with a vendor and aquired a big kite to try some antenna tests. >>=20 >> Stephan, how's big a kite should be to >> Fly a suitable Cooper / iron wire ? >=20 > That depends on the kite itselfe, the weight of the wire but in the first w= ay it depends on the location! If you intend to fly the kite on flat land an= d/or on the coast where the wind is mostly stable and strong then a small ki= te, maybe 1 m^2 is OK. But if the wind is unstable and the velocity is low t= hen you need more area. My "small" kite has 3.6m^2 and the big one has 8.1m^= 2. For example, the 300m vertical was hold stable at the sky for hours in my= 10th VLF experiment. The small kite carries the wire when the wind speed is= 18 km/h or say 3-4 BFT. The big kite just needs 10 km/h or about 2-3 BFT to= carry the 300m wire. >=20 > The picture looks like this is a small kite, smaller than 1 m^2. But you n= eed a thinner line for the kite and if you use a thin wire which is only 100= m long or so and fly it on the coast then this should work! > Just try it. :-) > And don't forget to tell us :-) >=20 > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Giorgio >>=20 >> Inviato da iPhone >>=20 >> >>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail-D6C58501-1EFF-45C8-9FCD-B0171CE62BB4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hello Stefan,
I'll need to find a roll of suitable wire first :)
Wh= at Are you using ? I have seen some
Fishermans using inox wire tha= t looks very strong!

Thanks for your usual useful a= nswer !

Now time for a swim. Let's park the kite ..=

Bye,
Giorgio 

Inviato= da iPhone

Il giorno 26/lug/2012, alle ore 14:50, Stefan Sch=C3= =A4fer <Stefan.S= chaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> ha scritto:

Hello Giorgio,

Am 26.07.2012 14:13, schrieb IZ2JGB:
Hello group,

While resting a little on The local beach in Numana , Italy, i've managed a good
Deal with a vendor and aquired a big kite to try some antenna tests.

Stephan, how's big a kite should be to
Fly a suitable Cooper / iron wire ?

That depends on the kite itselfe, the weight of the wire but in the first way it depends on the location! If you intend to fly the kite on flat land and/or on the coast where the wind is mostly stable and strong then a small kite, maybe 1 m^2 is OK. But if the wind is unstable and the velocity is low then you need more area. My "small" kite has 3.6m^2 and the big one has 8.1m^2. For example, the 300m vertical was hold stable at the sky for hours in my 10th VLF experiment. The small kite carries the wire when the wind speed is 18 km/h or say 3-4 BFT. The big kite just needs 10 km/h or about 2-3 BFT to carry the 300m wire.

The picture looks like this is a small kite, smaller than 1 m^2. But you need a thinner line for the kite and if you use a thin wire which is only 100m long or so and fly it on the coast then this should work!
Just try it. :-)
And don't forget to tell us :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Thanks,
Giorgio

Inviato da iPhone

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