Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2535D38000089; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SsGkv-00082v-V4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:12:45 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SsGkv-00082m-1M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:12:45 +0100 Received: from rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.129] helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SsGkr-0008Li-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:12:43 +0100 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 7B6DA138028.A38DA X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6DA138028; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:12:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5364820046; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:12:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::f5f7:d8cc:bee0:28d3%26]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:12:26 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk" , "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: Blacksheep and Yahoo Thread-Index: AQHNYfHXnYedlcptckqlfbxoQtqSvpcybw8K Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:12:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FAE4097@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <30610FF92B7843A9A5178679FBDFF229@gnat>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.12] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.129 (rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Roger, this evening I have a grabber running and wanted to announce it on the Yahoo and Blacksheep reflectors. I had to scroll back to last Sunday to find a mail from the Yahoo reflector. A quick count showed that over the past week I received 3 mails from Yahoo and about 35 mails from Blacksheep. 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I had to scroll back to last Sunday to find a = mail from the Yahoo reflector. A quick count showed that over the past week I received 3 mails from Yahoo = and about 35 mails from Blacksheep. I agree that Yahoo has a lot more bells but despite that Blacksheep seems s= till the place to be. So there seems to be a lot of "anti-capitalists" active on LF/MF ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T PS: I endorse the "live and let live" statement of Thierry (F4EOB) ________________________________ Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk [rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk] name= ns G3XBM [rogerlapthorn@gmail.com] Verzonden: zaterdag 14 juli 2012 20:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: Blacksheep and Yahoo Dear LF, IMHO it's time we all moved across to this Yahoo group and shut down the Bl= acksheep. Having two lists is a pain. Those of us who've moved here surely = agree it is every bit as good as the Blacksheep list, and in many ways much= better. What I still totally fail to understand is why good keen LF folks like Stef= an DK7FC, steadfastly refuse to move. It is almost like an anti-capitalist = stand, which frankly is a bit silly. It costs us nothing and gives us a lot= . 73s Roger G3XBM (PS thanks GW0EZY for the -31dB WSPR report on 500kHz just now) --- In rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Alan Melia" wrote: > > Hi Geri that sounds like a recipe for an interminable ping pong, eating b= andwidth and getting the group a bad name!! It is just too much to expect o= f the administrators to do this manually. Managing the blacksheep it is get= ting increasing difficult. I dont think the intention ever was to run two r= eflectors. Of course there is nothing to stop those who object to joining t= he Yahoo! Group from setting up their own. Mailman, and Majordomo are open = source as far as I am aware. > > Some members are likely to object to their messages being auto-forwarded = in that way too. > > Alan > G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW > To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk ; rsgb_lf_group@... > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:17 PM > Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Blacksheep and Yahoo > > > > > > Mike, > > Woule there be any way to "relay" any blacksheep.org content to Yahoo and= vice evrse., e.g that rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk will "subscribe" to the blacksheep messages and rsgb_= lf_group@... becomes a member of the Yahoo group? > > By that method each of us could decide what way they prefer to exchange i= nformation, but no information would be lost! > > /3 > > Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Dennison > To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: LF: Transmitting on 477kHZ today > > > > Yes, Wolf, there are still a few who have not migrated to Yahoo. This > is very inefficient and leads to double-posting, and missed > information. Possibly there are some people who don't know the Yahoo > group exists. I am giving it as much publicity as I can from my web > sites. > > Mike, G3XDV > g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf/ > > > Hello Mike, > > > > Thanks for the info. > > Where did Roland spot the original message - on the old Blacksheep > > thing, from which I unsubscribed weeks ago ? .. are there other skeds > > etc being made there still, which we are missing here ? Also haven't > > heard anything from Stefan and others for some time, which is > > suspicious. > > > > Have a nice weekend, and "happy impact" (from the announced CME) :) > > > > 73, > > Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD qrv again later. > > > > > > --- In rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, "Mike Dennison" > > wrote: > > Received WSPR on 477kHz (dial) from > > DF0WD, DL3DNR and DK6NI > yesterday evening, More details at: > > g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk > > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D: = > > > Hello, > > > > I'm transmitting on 477kHz with WSPR at 17:00 UTC. ERP 0.8W. > > > > Antenna 50m, 15m high. > > > > 73 > > Roland DL3NDR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a ne= w topic Messages in this topic (16) Recent Activity: * New Members 3 Visit Your Group [Yahoo! Groups] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest = =95 Unsubscribe =95 Terms of Use . __,_._,___ --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FAE4097ICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Roger,=

 

this evening= I have a grabber running and wanted to announ= ce it on the Yahoo and Blacksheep reflectors. I had to scroll back to last Sunday to find<= a> a mail from the Yahoo reflector.

A quick count showed that over the past week I received 3 mails&n= bsp;from Yahoo and about 35 mails from Black= sheep.

I agree that Yahoo has a lot mo= re bells but despite that&n= bsp;Blacksheep seems still the place to be.

So there&nbs= p;seems to be a lot of "anti-capitalists&quo= t; active on LF/MF ;-)

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

PS: I endorse the "live and let live&q= uot; statement of Thierry (F4EOB)

 

Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups= .co.uk [rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk] namens G3XBM [rogerlapthorn@gmail.= com]
Verzonden: zaterdag 14 juli 2012 20:52
To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk
Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: Blacksheep and Yahoo

 

Dear LF,

IMHO it's time we all moved across to this Yahoo group and shut down the Bl= acksheep. Having two lists is a pain. Those of us who've moved here surely = agree it is every bit as good as the Blacksheep list, and in many ways much= better.

What I still totally fail to understand is why good keen LF folks like Stef= an DK7FC, steadfastly refuse to move. It is almost like an anti-capitalist = stand, which frankly is a bit silly. It costs us nothing and gives us a lot= .

73s
Roger G3XBM

(PS thanks GW0EZY for the -31dB WSPR report on 500kHz just now)

--- In rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.u= k, "Alan Melia" <A= lan.Melia@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Geri that sounds like a recipe for an interminable ping pong, eatin= g bandwidth and getting the group a bad name!! It is just too much to expec= t of the administrators to do this manually. Managing the blacksheep it is = getting increasing difficult. I dont think the intention ever was to run two reflectors. Of course there is not= hing to stop those who object to joining the Yahoo! Group from setting up t= heir own. Mailman, and Majordomo are open source as far as I am aware.
>
> Some members are likely to object to their messages being auto-forward= ed in that way too.
>
> Alan
> G3NYK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW
> To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.u= k ; rsgb_lf_group@...
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:17 PM
> Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Blacksheep and Yahoo
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Woule there be any way to "relay" any blacksheep.org content= to Yahoo and vice evrse., e.g that rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk<= /a> will "subscribe" to the blac= ksheep messages and rsgb_lf_group@... becomes a member of the Yahoo group?
>
> By that method each of us could decide what way they prefer to exchang= e information, but no information would be lost!
>
> /3
>
> Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Dennison
> To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.u= k
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: LF: Transmitting on 477kHZ today
>
>
>
> Yes, Wolf, there are still a few who have not migrated to Yahoo. This =
> is very inefficient and leads to double-posting, and missed
> information. Possibly there are some people who don't know the Yahoo <= br> > group exists. I am giving it as much publicity as I can from my web > sites.
>
> Mike, G3XDV
> g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk
> http://homepage.ntlwor= ld.com/mike.dennison/index/lf/
>
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> > Where did Roland spot the original message - on the old Blackshee= p
> > thing, from which I unsubscribed weeks ago ? .. are there other s= keds
> > etc being made there still, which we are missing here ? Also have= n't
> > heard anything from Stefan and others for some time, which is
> > suspicious.
> >
> > Have a nice weekend, and "happy impact" (from the annou= nced CME) :)
> >
> > 73,
> > Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD qrv again later.
> >
> >
> > --- In rsgb_lf_group@yahoogro= ups.co.uk, "Mike Dennison&= quot;
> > <mike.dennison@> wrote: > > Received WSPR on 477kHz (= dial) from
> > DF0WD, DL3DNR and DK6NI > yesterday evening, More details at:<= br> > > g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk > > Mike, G3XDV > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D: > > > Hello, > >
> > I'm transmitting on 477kHz with WSPR at 17:00 UTC. ERP 0.8W. >= >
> > Antenna 50m, 15m high. > > > > 73 > > Roland DL= 3NDR > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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