Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 39E303800009B; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SnerZ-0002XQ-AJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:56:33 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SnerY-0002XH-Kl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:56:32 +0100 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SnerW-0001ce-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:56:31 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.22.100]) by mwinf5d36 with ME id XbwV1j00329Zw7W03bwVwm; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:56:29 +0200 Message-ID: <77609A3EEB884D3BAA099FABA96A86FC@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Cc: "Gus" References: <4FF8A6FC.3080908@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 00:56:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Roger, -25 , In there lies the problem , Gus would need over 10 times the power to be audible for a live CW qso , to get that -25 upto -15 / -10 dB , from the level I am seeing , I think, that kind of power increase would not be possible [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: 4c0633a540d76adc241b9d3cede72a57 Subject: Re: LF: Saturday night... Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:327974464:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ca4ff8cd10586c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Roger, -25 , In there lies the problem , Gus would need over 10 times the power to be audible for a live CW qso , to get that -25 upto -15 / -10 dB , from the level I am seeing , I think, that kind of power increase would not be possible Its the age old problem, low signal = long drawn out qrs cw or enhanced dsp based data modes are the only options , just the qsb / fade pattern on 500 plays havoc with qrss 73 -G. 2318 -24 -1.5 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 2320 -19 2.5 0.478485 0 SM6BHZ JO57 27 2324 -26 -1.4 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 2328 -11 2.2 0.478485 0 SM6BHZ JO57 27 2330 -24 -1.4 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 2336 -21 -1.3 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 2338 -14 2.1 0.478485 0 SM6BHZ JO57 27 2342 -27 -1.5 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 2346 -14 2.4 0.478484 0 SM6BHZ JO57 27 2348 -21 -1.6 0.478529 0 DF6NM JN59 27 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Lapthorn" Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 10:24 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Saturday night... > Plenty of 477kHz WSPR activity Stefan with SM6BHZ coming in here at -25dB > S/N currently and stations from Germany and (illegally?) France. > > Looking forward to working you on CW when I much improve my antenna and > TX. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- > > On 7 Jul 2012, at 22:15, Stefan > Schäfer wrote: > >> MF, >> >> Is there really no one QRV from Germany or the others in the 500 kHz >> range???? On a late saturday night without much QRN?? >> >> I'm running my active ferrite antenna now and it looks quite promising. >> However it is affected from the TX antenna as well, even if it is detuned >> (not completely). >> >> The bearing to UK / PA looks very clean. I'm directing the antenna in >> this direction. >> >> Now CQ 472.5 kHz... >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >> >