Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 887DD380000D8; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SuT8I-0006uS-6T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:49:58 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SuT8H-0006uJ-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:49:57 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SuT8F-0004dI-ER for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:49:56 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q6QInsCw019613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:49:54 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q6QInrI7000974 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:49:53 +0200 Message-ID: <501190C3.1050500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:47:31 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <714A4D3FC7A94F8EB1BE8D3983799E10@AGB> <928D78F9-CCAE-4F1B-A439-EC3976FF43BD@arimi.it> In-Reply-To: <928D78F9-CCAE-4F1B-A439-EC3976FF43BD@arimi.it> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Giorgio, If you want to do experiments even at poor wind speeds and have a fix point that is really FIXED!, then i recommend this kite series: http://www.premierkites.com/collections/pdf/Sleds.pdf On the last page there is the 8.1 m^2 version. This one flies stable at 10 km/h. But at 4-5 BFT you will have a real problem to bring it down again! Belive me, i've been there :-) [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 87966b345956c8ef3389b993f6a18f4e Subject: Re: LF: Kites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:442679104:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6057501191931b0d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Giorgio, If you want to do experiments even at poor wind speeds and have a fix point that is really FIXED!, then i recommend this kite series: http://www.premierkites.com/collections/pdf/Sleds.pdf On the last page there is the 8.1 m^2 version. This one flies stable at 10 km/h. But at 4-5 BFT you will have a real problem to bring it down again! Belive me, i've been there :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: They say 8.1 square feet but of course it is sqare meters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure ) :-) Am 26.07.2012 18:16, schrieb IZ2JGB: > TNX Graham! > > I'll have a look at that. > > 73 de iz2jgb