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That is a nice "goal". There are a few stations=20 on that pskmap that i never heared from on the reflector. That looks=20 like a real chance to get some newcomers. At least i have some hope! Well, now i am not in Heidelberg and cannot transmit this night but i=20 may give it a try soon again. Good luck for Mike! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 22.07.2012 21:17, schrieb Graham: > Ok Stefan, > Well , we can only wait and watch ! , there are 14 monitors at=20 > the moment , just hope , switched to OP32 > It is summer , may be 136 activity was not expected , could be =20 > on vacation etc ? > Audio band for OP32 is 100 Hz 1500 to 1600 Hz with +/- 2=20 > Hz total system stability requirement , this should not be a =20 > problem Smile emoticon > GL 73 -G.. > > *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:05 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Good OP8 results .. Q 136 OP32 Test ? > > Hi Graham, > > I do not doubt that W1VD will decode me on OP32 these days. But are=20 > there others like VO1NA? I also wrote an email to him but got no=20 > answer so far. What about VE1VDM? > > 73, Stefan > > Am 22.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Graham: >> Remarkable results using OP8 on on 136 from Stefan,=20 >> Mike and Tom both reaching TF3HZ 1858 Km and RN3AGC /=20 >> RX3QFM , though not at the same s/n level !, but both decoding =20 >> inside the OP8 limits >> While the condx, appeared not to support TA propagation , this =20 >> would be a good opportunity to to test the OP32 mode >> *Could we ask, those using Opera OP8 on 136 to change to OP32 =20 >> for any overnight or other beacon activity for comparison ?* >> OP32 offer's a 6 dB lower decode s/n , but with X4 longer =20 >> tx 'times' may provide range extension greater than predicted =20 >> by s/n , the system working by average power along the time =20 >> line , being able to take advantage of qsb and flash events .. >> Thanks All >> Graham >> G0NBD >> INFO :- >> Follow the progress of Op8 tests and other 136 activity on Mikes Blog, >> >> http://g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk/ >> >> 400 mW ERP >> 136kHz Op8 to Iceland and Russia >> >> Transmitted an Opera8 beacon again overnight on the 136kHz band and=20 >> got reports >> from RN3AGC, RX3QFM and TF3HZ (-32dB). The Icelandic station produced=20 >> five >> decodes between 0022 and 0202. Best distance was 2681km to RX3QFM.=20 >> Highlights >> were as follows: >> >> 02:02 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -35 dB in Reykjavik >> 01:37 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -31 dB in Reykjavik >> 01:12 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik >> 00:47 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik >> 00:47 136 G3XDV de RX3QFM Op8 2681 km -33 dB in KO91OO >> 00:22 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik >> 00:22 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -34 dB in Moscow >> 23:57 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -31 dB in Moscow --------------000709070405070903040701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, i can see EA7HAZ. That is a nice "goal". There are a few stations on that pskmap that i never heared from on the reflector. That looks like a real chance to get some newcomers. At least i have some hope!
Well, now i am not in Heidelberg and cannot transmit this night but i may give it a try soon again.

Good luck for Mike!

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 22.07.2012 21:17, schrieb Graham:
Ok Stefan,
 
Well , we can only  wait  and  watch  ! , there  are  14  monitors  at the  moment , just  hope  , switched  to  OP32
It is  summer , may be  136  activity  was  not  expected , could be  on vacation etc ?
 
Audio  band  for  OP32  is   100 Hz  1500  to  1600 Hz  with  +/-   2 Hz   total  system  stability  requirement  , this  should not  be a  problem Smile emoticon
 
GL 73 -G..

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Good OP8 results .. Q 136 OP32 Test ?

Hi Graham,

I do not doubt that W1VD will decode me on OP32 these days. But are there others like VO1NA? I also wrote an email to him but got no answer so far. What about VE1VDM?

73, Stefan

Am 22.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Graham:
Remarkable   results  using   OP8  on on  136  from  Stefan,  Mike and  Tom  both  reaching  TF3HZ    1858 Km   and   RN3AGC / RX3QFM , though  not  at the  same  s/n level !, but  both  decoding  inside the  OP8 limits
 
While the condx, appeared  not to  support  TA propagation  , this  would  be a  good  opportunity  to  to  test the  OP32 mode
 
Could we ask, those using  Opera OP8   on 136 to  change to  OP32  for  any overnight  or  other  beacon  activity for comparison ?
 
OP32  offer's  a  6 dB lower  decode s/n  , but  with  X4   longer  tx 'times'  may  provide  range  extension greater than  predicted  by  s/n , the  system working  by  average  power  along the  time  line , being  able to  take  advantage of  qsb  and  flash  events ..
 
Thanks  All
 
Graham
G0NBD
 
INFO :-
 
Follow the progress of Op8 tests and other 136 activity on Mikes Blog,

http://g3xdv.blogspot.co.uk/

400 mW   ERP >>  136kHz Op8 to Iceland and Russia

Transmitted an Opera8 beacon again overnight on the 136kHz band and got reports
from RN3AGC, RX3QFM and TF3HZ (-32dB). The Icelandic station produced five
decodes between 0022 and 0202. Best distance was 2681km to RX3QFM. Highlights
were as follows:

02:02 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -35 dB in Reykjavik
01:37 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -31 dB in Reykjavik
01:12 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik
00:47 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik
00:47 136 G3XDV de RX3QFM Op8 2681 km -33 dB in KO91OO
00:22 136 G3XDV de TF3HZ Op8 1858 km -32 dB in Reykjavik
00:22 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -34 dB in Moscow
23:57 136 G3XDV de RN3AGC Op8 2483 km -31 dB in Moscow
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