Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7E8353800009C; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Sq9KC-0006n0-TQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:52:24 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Sq9KB-0006mr-UA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:52:23 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sq9KA-0000am-D8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:52:22 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6EKqLpr005001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:52:21 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q6EKqHlG009184 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:52:17 +0200 Message-ID: <5001DB83.1000106@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:50:11 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4FFF49E4.3040604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <1953BDD65F0E4832AF043E22C05F5650@AGB>, <4FFF5E95.6020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <5001A14A.30585.1055DF9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <5001A14A.30585.1055DF9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Mike, Sorry, somehow i missed to read your comment. So far i didn't spent much attention on OP32 but if it is really comparable with QRSS-10, there will certainly be no chance at all for me to be decoded in VK. Roger says WSPR can be compared to OP2. Is that correct? So then we would come back to good old fashioned QRSS/DFCW as the only serious DX mode on LF, not to talk about VLF. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 739d4fb39bd02fc5a2de5437a39bb056 Subject: Re: LF: LF OP32 to VK?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:405731168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40865001dc4d3a39 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Mike, Sorry, somehow i missed to read your comment. So far i didn't spent much attention on OP32 but if it is really comparable with QRSS-10, there will certainly be no chance at all for me to be decoded in VK. Roger says WSPR can be compared to OP2. Is that correct? So then we would come back to good old fashioned QRSS/DFCW as the only serious DX mode on LF, not to talk about VLF. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 14.07.2012 17:41, schrieb Mike Dennison: >> So do you and others think there will be a chance compared to >> DFCW-180? The next VK season may start in 6 weeks or so... >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> > Op32 has been tested as roughly equivalent to QRSS10, so would be > unlikely to produce a good enough signal/noise for DL-VK. > > The dilemma of LF DX: is that you need to use a very narrow bandwidth > to get the S/N, so you need a very slow mode. However, the periods of > good conditions are not open for very long, so you need a faster > mode. > > Coupled with this, there are relatively short periods of very good > conditions amongst the QSB which could be taken advantage of by a > faster speed. > > Ideally you need a mode that will accumulate the results from several > periods of good reception over a few hours or even over several days. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > >