Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A293C38000611; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Sq4Tw-0004dD-24 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:42:08 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Sq4Tv-0004d4-Iv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:42:07 +0100 Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sq4Tu-0007u3-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:42:06 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120714154205.MXZZ3118.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:42:05 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.2] (really [82.5.252.56]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20120714154205.KGDM16631.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.2]> for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:42:05 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:41:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5001A14A.30585.1055DF9@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <4FFF5E95.6020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4FFF49E4.3040604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <1953BDD65F0E4832AF043E22C05F5650@AGB>, <4FFF5E95.6020706@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AUhbpHVS+xhHrj9wLCYAQoYnFLYUZdbP8UM0GmH2jwk= c=1 sm=0 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Q0eaiG_b2-RT2lKuDCYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > So do you and others think there will be a chance compared to > DFCW-180? The next VK season may start in 6 weeks or so... > 73, Stefan/DK7FC Op32 has been tested as roughly equivalent to QRSS10, so would be unlikely to produce a good enough signal/noise for DL-VK. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [81.103.221.47 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 5c1f37c04fc013ebbc2288fd3791d043 Subject: Re: LF: LF OP32 to VK?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc145500193a07760 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none > So do you and others think there will be a chance compared to > DFCW-180? The next VK season may start in 6 weeks or so... > 73, Stefan/DK7FC Op32 has been tested as roughly equivalent to QRSS10, so would be unlikely to produce a good enough signal/noise for DL-VK. The dilemma of LF DX: is that you need to use a very narrow bandwidth to get the S/N, so you need a very slow mode. However, the periods of good conditions are not open for very long, so you need a faster mode. Coupled with this, there are relatively short periods of very good conditions amongst the QSB which could be taken advantage of by a faster speed. Ideally you need a mode that will accumulate the results from several periods of good reception over a few hours or even over several days. Mike, G3XDV ==========