Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5CF5B38000181; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Smpaz-0000PO-1h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:12:01 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Smpay-0000PF-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:12:00 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Smpav-0007Yb-T0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:11:59 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q65HBvt4021236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:11:57 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q65HBvTQ024051 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:11:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4FF5CA64.8020202@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:09:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id q65HBvt4021236 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Victor, Am 05.07.2012 19:00, schrieb victor13@online.nl: > Hello Stefan, > > for narrowband vfo i get best results with a clap or a seiler,both with big > parallel c over the FET.But of course everything depends on the mechanical > stability and the quality of the parts: ceramic coilformer,silvered mica > capacitors and tempcompensation with N750 ceramic capacitors.With trial and > error you may get very good results. OK, tnx. Years ago i built a 137 kHz oscillator (by DJ2EY) which used diffent capacitors for temperature compensation. I will see what i get... [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: c0e6e8bcdc231effb9da2003d606d9a2 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Analog oscillators Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:455790720:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600c4ff5cb126d4a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Victor, Am 05.07.2012 19:00, schrieb victor13@online.nl: > Hello Stefan, > > for narrowband vfo i get best results with a clap or a seiler,both with= big > parallel c over the FET.But of course everything depends on the mechani= cal > stability and the quality of the parts: ceramic coilformer,silvered mic= a > capacitors and tempcompensation with N750 ceramic capacitors.With trial= and > error you may get very good results. OK, tnx. Years ago i built a 137 kHz oscillator (by DJ2EY) which used=20 diffent capacitors for temperature compensation. I will see what i get... > Use big parts,temprise will be less,so > stability will be better.. > =20 That sounds convincing, tnx. Meanwhile the output stage is built, once=20 again using a ICL7667. I would like to use a JFET. And i found a nice=20 link in the web, of course from W1VD: http://www.w1vd.com/16080VFO.pdf That is nice and i have all the parts here. I will build it and hope to=20 try it in the evening :-) BTW are you QRV on 500 CW as well? 73, Stefan > GL > 73 > Victor > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Namens Stefan Sch=E4fer > Verzonden: donderdag 5 juli 2012 18:32 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: LF: Analog oscillators > > > LF/MF, > > I want to build an analog oscillator running on 1888....1916 kHz. It > will be used as the input VFO for my PA which divides the frequency by = 4 > internally. A metallic box with 12V input voltage cables and a RG174 > cable for the output is already available. Also a 78L05 with its 100nF > Cs is mounted. Later i can label the scale directly with 472...479 kHz, > so the need to divde by 4 in my head will not be necessary any more. > > The output voltage should be arround 12V. The curve form is not > critical, it does not need to be a clear sine wave. However the > frequency should be as stable as possible. > > So, what is the best oscillator circuit? Are there strong differences > regarding stability or is it always a question of the temperature? Ah, > it must be a LC oscillator. The adjusting part is a variable C of 33pF > with a 6mm axis. > > There are a lot of circuits in the web but maybe one principe is to be > preferred.. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > =20