Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F27953800008E; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1StBwu-0003CW-3i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:16:56 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1StBwt-0003CN-9Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:16:55 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1StBwq-0001dk-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:16:54 +0100 Received: from [10.90.110.3] (ip-109-47-0-115.web.vodafone.de [109.47.0.115]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MBX2g-1T1P9y3c6o-00AVMf; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:16:50 +0200 References: <002801cd67f2$b2d3bd60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <7B9F9E1EC7CF44AAB326502FF7F3A6BE@W1KW> <500C35E0.8010507@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> From: Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: <500C35E0.8010507@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-Id: <43A1879A-58FF-480A-A148-65811EAB486E@dk8kw.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:17:05 +0200 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Y01SphijhT2gSCYa2PAtJ0PcLUc/Zu9b35GNVRwe7Bv 55yMjGwwcXmGzlJiLnJv9fohUwLFjBoIF3PGTEUSiOuQUQykoE tLsyjjx2nLPw3mUZzrRDzBQI9l/vSn9NlwncRtGzlOIbJ3xdii 6vMhTSp4lNAxOA18x3GymrgD4wIGaTlAsElbj5/ySg8uAGMgkr vlZRqY30eroLuHvKEc72dWRveLtdz766/3qU5A0/5uC8+0eaAc YEcjq9Rq2HHZUvv9vzCuDXaT1x7gj6UG2E3ei54xgQZ/Y8zljB AJ3b3Ln9X8bU74u/9o4yvLtquBiVBt0EspHuCXj1Dxir95KWOx hKeASMPzu/yB0UN3x9xt5voqHQFwYcJ/rys5buIYe X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, Yes, it's partly due to groundwave/skywave conditions but I am already known as the crocodile (big mouth, tiny ears) over here in Northern Germany because my signal is 599 all around while I can barely hear people. On LF I had optimized my receiving system pretty much but on MF I have a high noise floor, probably from household electronics. One solution surely is to put an e-field antenna some 25m away from the house into the garden, equally far away from all houses in the neighborhood. Currently I am using my transmitting umbrella antenna to receive, which always proved best on LF but probably needs some re-thinking for MF. Additionally I got hold of a R&S EK070 on EBay last week and I am eagerly waiting for it to arrive. At least then nobody can complain that my receiver is lousy ;) [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.227.126.187 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars X-Scan-Signature: 3dad7246509e3b317974c9d84e795ac1 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 CQ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-780F6DBB-6A4F-46B2-84DC-4CEC57839328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466493312:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600d500cecb7637b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-780F6DBB-6A4F-46B2-84DC-4CEC57839328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Stefan, Yes, it's partly due to groundwave/skywave conditions but I am already known= as the crocodile (big mouth, tiny ears) over here in Northern Germany becau= se my signal is 599 all around while I can barely hear people. On LF I had o= ptimized my receiving system pretty much but on MF I have a high noise floor= , probably from household electronics. One solution surely is to put an e-fi= eld antenna some 25m away from the house into the garden, equally far away f= rom all houses in the neighborhood. Currently I am using my transmitting umb= rella antenna to receive, which always proved best on LF but probably needs s= ome re-thinking for MF. Additionally I got hold of a R&S EK070 on EBay last w= eek and I am eagerly waiting for it to arrive. At least then nobody can comp= lain that my receiver is lousy ;) Lots of things to do and to explore on MF, which is a great part of the fun.= And until I am fully set up for TX and RX on 475 kHz I use some non-amateur= communication devices such as Echolink and VHF repeaters to do my day-to-da= y communications ;) Best 73 Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO On 22.07.2012, at 19:18, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer wrote: > Geri,=20 >=20 > I bet it is only due to groundwave limitations. Normally you should hear M= al. So far he is the strongest signal i heared on MF. But at 11 UTC you can f= orget about MF skywave, at least in central Germany and in summer. >=20 > Last night DF0WD and DF6NM were perfectly audible. But this is after 0 AM l= ocal! Later even the QSB was lower and the signals stronger. >=20 > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >=20 >=20 > Am 22.07.2012 12:24, schrieb Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW: >>=20 >> Mal, >> =20 >> Sorry, no coppy here, however, I know that my rx-equipment needs improvem= en. EK 070 and Mini Whip is already on order ... >> =20 >> 73 >> =20 >> Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: mal hamilton >> To: rsgb >> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:13 PM >> Subject: LF: 502 CQ >>=20 >> MF >> Now CQ around 502 on CW >> =20 >> De mal/g3kev >> =20 --Apple-Mail-780F6DBB-6A4F-46B2-84DC-4CEC57839328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Stefan,

Yes, it's partly due to groundwave/skywave conditions but I am alread= y known as the crocodile (big mouth, tiny ears) over here in Northern German= y because my signal is 599 all around while I can barely hear people. On LF I= had optimized my receiving system pretty much but on MF I have a high noise= floor, probably from household electronics. One solution surely is to put a= n e-field antenna some 25m away from the house into the garden, equally far a= way from all houses in the neighborhood. Currently I am using my transmittin= g umbrella antenna to receive, which always proved best on LF but probably n= eeds some re-thinking for MF. Additionally I got hold of a R&S EK070 on E= Bay last week and I am eagerly waiting for it to arrive. At least then nobod= y can complain that my receiver is lousy ;)

Lots of= things to do and to explore on MF, which is a great part of the fun. And un= til I am fully set up for TX and RX on 475 kHz I use some non-amateur commun= ication devices such as Echolink and VHF repeaters to do my day-to-day commu= nications ;)

Best 73

Geri,= DK8KW & DI2BO


On 22= .07.2012, at 19:18, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote= :

Geri,

I bet it is only due to groundwave limitations. Normally you should hear Mal. So far he is the strongest signal i heared on MF. But at 11 UTC you can forget about MF skywave, at least in central Germany and in summer.

Last night DF0WD and DF6NM were perfectly audible. But this is after 0 AM local! Later even the QSB was lower and the signals stronger.

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 22.07.2012 12:24, schrieb Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW:
Mal,
 
Sorry, no coppy here, however, I know that my rx-equipment needs improvemen. EK 070 and Mini Whip is already on order ...
 
73
 
Geri, DK8KW & DI2BO
 
----- Original Message -----
From:<= /b> mal hamilton
To: rsgb
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: LF: 502 CQ

MF
Now CQ  around 502 on CW
 
De mal/g3kev
 
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