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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Although there is undoubtedly potentially good propagation throughout the year, summer DX is limited by several factors. (1) The general level of propagation, which can be roughly estimated by the Dst figure, which is low at present. This is relevant even in winter of course. Losses are cumulative over each hop, so ithere is a worse effect over a longer path. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [81.103.221.47 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 086f3faad0220c9ae57a7913e711a86d Subject: Re: LF: 4X OP32 report Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:419023136:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4058501019190376 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Although there is undoubtedly potentially good propagation throughout the year, summer DX is limited by several factors. (1) The general level of propagation, which can be roughly estimated by the Dst figure, which is low at present. This is relevant even in winter of course. Losses are cumulative over each hop, so ithere is a worse effect over a longer path. (2) The duration of darkness over the path, This is over a much greater period in the winter, so there are many more opportunities for a good path. This mutual darkness period is shorter for longer paths. (3) Background noise level. This is usually storm static which is much worse in the summer, and worse still at lower latitudes. Therefore this affects the path to the USA more than to Newfoundland. The conclusion is that there are fewer opportunities to work multi- hop distances in the summer, though it is not impossible. Note that the path to Iceland is a single hop, to Joe it is probably two, and to some US stations it may be more. Mike, G3XDV > Pity nothing decoded in the US last night , but signal 's in 1500 > /2000 mile range where quite substantial ... from this , it seems > that propagation on 136 is really linked to the seasons ? as Gary > , was using a small 35 ft top loaded vertical and 300 or so > watts , for the first TA decode by Joe, using the original OP8 > mode > > 73 -G..