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Content preview: Oooops , just looked again , up too late last night watching the show ! > -4 Into Moscow ,is a outstanding level , with that level at 2000 > miles , how many hops to the lower limit of OP32 -39 dB or > OP64 -42 dB ... one for Alan ! > > 05:08 136 RN3AGC de RN3AUS Op8 -4 dB in nr Moscow [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: d7907c3bf895ca41e0bedc3fa074f0d4 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC in OP8 on LF, summary Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:464203008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d850098ce92efe X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Oooops , just looked again , up too late last night watching the show ! > -4 Into Moscow ,is a outstanding level , with that level at 2000 > miles , how many hops to the lower limit of OP32 -39 dB or > OP64 -42 dB ... one for Alan ! > > 05:08 136 RN3AGC de RN3AUS Op8 -4 dB in nr Moscow -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:49 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC in OP8 on LF, summary > Thanks' Stefan > > Quite interesting , especially the day light decode with TF3HZ and > later 4X1RF , decoding at the limit of the OP8 speed > > Nothing showing from the USA , but may be next time under better > condx , also Joe vo1na may of managed a decdoe , as he did Gary , > running 300 watts to a 35 ft top loaded vertical , using OP8 last > winter , but would of needed some warning of the event. > > > > As Mike , suggested , a similar test with OP32 , -6 db lower , would > be a good comparison , there is actually no limit to the time that > the OP system can be configured to run, the longest is 4 Hours , > OP4H for the 8Khz audio band , but once again, its data a mode and > not 'just' a single carrier, so still falls short at -50 db s/n .. > but if there was a station with a 'long' Ae ? > > BUT The big question is , What can you transmit ? I assume the > amplifier is class d/e ... > > Are you able to translate a audio based data mode to 136, the > opera data mode is designed to allow access to data/beacon with > simple CW transmitter and is not as efficient as mfsk or phase > modulated system ... > > Tnx -73 -G. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stefan Schäfer" > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:51 PM > To: > Subject: LF: DK7FC in OP8 on LF, summary > >> Hello LF! >> >> Thanks to all listening stations for the reports of the yesterdays OP8 >> orgy on LF! I must admit that it was an interesting >> afternoon/evening/night/morning. >> >> Out of 733 reports, here is a summary of the best reports i got from the >> 25 stations. >> >> Vy 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >