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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi all I think Stefan is going to direct key the TX ON/OFF from the Serial Port or he is doing it from a PIC type keyer (like me) or he has just recorded the output from the PC SC onto an MP3 player and using the ON/OFF tone on a continuous loop to key a relay transistor via a sound detector cct thence to key the TX. All options are possible this is the good bit about this type of weak signal communication. The RX window is 1.6 / 1.8kc/s from the TX carrier on an SSB TX (Upper Side Band) but when using a CW rig the carrier has to be with in the window on the EU 600m band it is currently 478.6 / 478.8kc/s on the UK 600m band it is currently 501.6 / 501.8kc/s. So long as the RX is set such that it hears a tone 1.6 to 1.7kc/s and that it is connected to the PC Sound Card input at the right level then it will decode. So if you use a Direct Convertion RX it doesn't matter which way you approach the signal either upper or lower side band. 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All options are possible this is the good = bit about this type of weak signal communication.=0A=A0=0AThe RX window is = 1.6 / 1.8kc/s from the TX carrier on an SSB TX (Upper Side Band) but when u= sing a CW rig the carrier has to be with in the window on the EU 600m band = it is currently 478.6 / 478.8kc/s on the UK=A0 600m band it is currently 50= 1.6 / 501.8kc/s.=0A=A0=0ASo long as the RX is set such that it hears a tone= 1.6 to 1.7kc/s and that it is connected to the PC Sound Card input at the = right level then it will decode. So if=A0you use a Direct Convertion=A0=A0R= X it doesn't matter which way you approach the signal either upper or lower= side band.=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A>______________________= __________=0A> From: Albert =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org =0A>Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012, 14:58=0A>Subject: Re: LF: OPERA= Question=0A> =0A>Stefan,=0A>=0A>Download the Opera program. In the water= fall you will see two red lines, put the cursor on the lines and read the f= requency (upper left window of the waterfall display)=A0 Op4 differs from O= p8 etc a frequency within this band is the input of the USB TX so 477kHz + = (a frequency between the red lines). When using CAT control Opera will choo= se a not occupied freq. in the appropriate pass band.=0A>=0A>73, Albert=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ---1613889061-2026716265-1341931104=:51212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
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I think Stefan is going to direct = key the TX ON/OFF from the Serial Port or he is doing it from a PIC type ke= yer (like me) or he has just recorded the output from the PC SC onto a= n MP3 player and using the ON/OFF tone on a continuous loop to key a r= elay transistor via a sound detector cct thence to key the TX. All opt= ions are possible this is the good bit about this type of weak signal commu= nication.
 
The RX windo= w is 1.6 / 1.8kc/s from the TX carrier on an SSB TX (Upper Side Band) but w= hen using a CW rig the carrier has to be with in the window on the EU 600m = band it is currently 478.6 / 478.8kc/s on the UK  600m band it is curr= ently 501.6 / 501.8kc/s.
 
So long as= the RX is set such that it hears a tone 1.6 to 1.7kc/s and that it is conn= ected to the PC Sound Card input at the right level then it will decode. So= if you use a Direct Convertion  RX it doesn't matter= which way you approach the signal either upper or lower side band.
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
=20 From: Albert <westberg= @xs4all.nl>
To: rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent:<= /span> Tuesday, 10 July 2012, 14:58
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA Question

= Stefan,

Download the Opera program. In the waterfall you will see tw= o red lines, put the cursor on the lines and read the frequency (upper left= window of the waterfall display)  Op4 differs from Op8 etc a frequenc= y within this band is the input of the USB TX so 477kHz + (a frequency betw= een the red lines). When using CAT control Opera will choose a not occupied= freq. in the appropriate pass band.

73, Albert




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