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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Ulrich I try all modes and then I am in a position to compare and pass judgement first hand. Still regardless of circumstances receivers and antennas are poor generally and in some cases cannot cope with the environment. It does not help of course with the QRP merchants putting out u/Watts. I work in QRO mode to give others a chance to RX 73 de Mal/g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (3.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.242 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.3 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.5 FSL_UA FSL_UA 1.3 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 18c242620d7d7b91a1caf5740aa3e326 Subject: Re: LF: opera reports Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01CD57B0.B0D08A90" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:458373056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60c94ff08bf204eb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01CD57B0.B0D08A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ulrich I try all modes and then I am in a position to compare and pass = judgement first hand. Still regardless of circumstances receivers and antennas are poor = generally and in some cases cannot cope with the environment. It does not help of course with the QRP merchants putting out u/Watts. I = work in QRO mode to give others a chance to RX 73 de Mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PA7EY=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: opera reports Hi Mal, I was surprized to see your call on Opera. Yes, your observations are correct, in the sense that most of the = receivers aren't that bad, neither are the antenna's looking at them as = plain transducers to/from EM-waves. The man-made local noise is what = makes things so bad. Living in a dense urban environment has its = disadvantages...... Nevertheless, LF/MF is very enjoyable for most of us I guess. I am still busy finding and eliminating sources of noise in my home = and neighbourhood, quite challenging at times, but part of the fun as = well. Not transmitting yet, but working on that too, hope to meet you on = MF/LF in the future, al well as all other LF/MF "addicts" 73 Ulrich, PA7EY 2012/7/1 mal hamilton Just looking at PA0A reports and they look vy poor which would = indicate poor receivers es antennas, whereas my report was +3 dB g3kev ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01CD57B0.B0D08A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ulrich
I try all modes and then I am in a position to = compare and=20 pass judgement first hand.
Still regardless of circumstances receivers and = antennas=20 are poor generally and in some cases cannot cope with the=20 environment.
It does not help of course with the QRP = merchants putting=20 out u/Watts. I work in QRO mode to give others a chance to = RX
73 de Mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PA7EY =
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 = 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: LF: opera = reports

Hi Mal,

I was surprized to see your call on Opera.

Yes, your observations are correct, in the sense that most of the = receivers aren't that bad, neither are the antenna's looking at them = as plain=20 transducers to/from EM-waves. The man-made local noise is what makes = things so=20 bad. Living in a dense urban environment has its = disadvantages......

Nevertheless, LF/MF is very enjoyable for most of us I = guess.
I am still busy finding and eliminating sources of noise in my = home and=20 neighbourhood, quite challenging at times, but part of the fun as = well.

Not transmitting yet, but working on that too, hope to meet you = on MF/LF=20 in the  future, al well as all other LF/MF "addicts"
 
73 Ulrich, PA7EY

2012/7/1 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
    Just looking at PA0A = reports and=20 they look vy poor which would indicate poor receivers es antennas, = whereas=20 my report was +3 dB
 
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