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[86.30.58.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d10sm31934433wiy.3.2012.06.04.05.33.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 05:33:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <00ad01cd424c$0138a690$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: Roger Lapthorn X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <00ad01cd424c$0138a690$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:33:33 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dear Mal, Who said anything about ME being a moderator of the LF group? Not me. Please, stop this personal and nasty hate campaign. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [74.125.82.171 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 07fee8d4a4e8ea80934a0e0aaa44e788 Subject: Re: LF: Re: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-ED2792A4-9797-416A-BEFE-C93237F020A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:495366560:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d005.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604a4fccab643256 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-ED2792A4-9797-416A-BEFE-C93237F020A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Mal, Who said anything about ME being a moderator of the LF group? Not me.=20 Please, stop this personal and nasty hate campaign.=20 73s Roger G3XBM -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- On 4 Jun 2012, at 13:17, "mal hamilton" wrote: > Reference postings from G3XBM > I am concerned about items 9 and 10 > Messages can be VETTED and DIFFICULT members banned. > Sounds like a POLICE state and what are the credentials of those VETTING a= nd what is a DIFFICULT member probably someone who has a different opinion o= r point of view from his or even a sense of HUMOUR > What ever happens avoid him as a moderator > =20 > de g3kev > =20 > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Lapthorn > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Alan Melia ; Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer ; Mark= us Vester ; James Moritz=20 > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:51 PM > Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE >=20 > With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest that the LF-re= flector migrates to a Yahoo group? >=20 > In over 10 years I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problem= s with any group to which I belong or moderate. >=20 > Instead they have had these advantages: > Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered in-boxes) > There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before messages are rec= eived. > All messages are archived and searchable. > Large files can be stored. > Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth. > Links can be stored/shared > Videos can be stored. > Polls can be run. > Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators to speed up= the process) > Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. > Spam messages can be filtered > Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc) > The advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand why t= he change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is surely ti= me. >=20 > To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whatever) would take= about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested members here would t= ake about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, who owns it,= who can moderate posts and some basic group ground rules/FAQs. >=20 > Please, think about it again.=20 >=20 > 73s > Roger G3XBM >=20 > --=20 > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-ED2792A4-9797-416A-BEFE-C93237F020A0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Dear Mal,

Who said anything about ME being a moderator of the LF group? Not m= e. 

Please, stop this personal and nasty hate c= ampaign. 

73s
Roger
G3XBM<= /div>



-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --
<= br>On 4 Jun 2012, at 13:17, "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

Reference postings from G3XBM
I am concerned about items 9  and 10
Messages can be VETTED and DIFFICULT members=20 banned.
Sounds like a POLICE state and what are the creden= tials of=20 those VETTING and what is a DIFFICULT member probably someone who has a=20 different opinion or point of view from his or even a sense of=20 HUMOUR
What ever happens avoid him as a moderator<= /div>
 
de g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:51=20= PM
Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yaho= o=20 group instead .....PLEASE

With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest= =20 that the LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group?

In over 10 years I= =20 have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems with any group to= =20 which I belong or moderate.

Instead they have had these advantages:=
  1. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered=20 in-boxes)
  2. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before messa= ges are=20 received.=20
  3. All messages are archived and searchable.
  4. Large files can be stored.
  5. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth.
  6. Links can be stored/shared
  7. Videos can be stored.
  8. Polls can be run.=20
  9. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators t= o speed=20 up the process)
  10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances.
  11. Spam messages can be filtered
  12. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc)
The=20 advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand why the=20= change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is surely=20 time.

To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whateve= r)=20 would take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested members h= ere=20 would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, who= =20 owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground=20 rules/FAQs.

Please, think about it again.

73s
Roger G3XB= M

--
http:/= /g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites= .google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/

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