Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 27D91380000AF; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SbtZf-00057v-JK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:13:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SbtZe-00057m-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:13:26 +0100 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SbtZc-0002K8-Jq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:13:25 +0100 Received: by obfk16 with SMTP id k16so21052409obf.16 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UXiKt6Hd51h5soLFgaKKM9GIgiJwHZA8SVGnoix4kiA=; b=LuYe8MorOFZJ5ko24wN2jFyvVLBEmfYvWrYh5oPMeLFUMPAkorb1wW7irmbdUWbBm0 lr3x9AFwzroIukiXPneBB9t5S27saE5pZgpK/orPb4Y0Mx2hlRZhzloSN5m5jo2Yo8mb m6YL/9TiD9vMZmTkhdVX+TAR9CxQQA+RyOWIqHC8t2ZKpiAXC7eeq+09BXfFCyjbctna HqNkpgjBTZpqhKHxns+DVFf9MYydg++avIOORJmq3oVi9BdVL9pzbkXpW+8zzLTbyfAn 5GMHbdr0MAX0dslnwkOSzuyEGLmrjRroC7atCWRCYP54TlnYPIXXsn2BIa73u6U7qS2U S+tw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.113.97 with SMTP id ix1mr14636680obb.79.1338902000775; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.8.68 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:13:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <002d01cd42fd$900c80b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <4FCB96A9.4010009@usa.net> <4FCB9F34.7040604@legal-medicine.de> <4FCBCC8B.9050308@usa.net> <77A08BCA-E9AB-404B-B425-BFD3564F66FE@thelortons.co.uk> <517B3527-8D27-4E07-853D-653F9AF3E025@thelortons.co.uk> <4FCCCB31.4080201@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <016101cd427d$7f76f4e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <002d01cd42fd$900c80b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:13:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: John Gould To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mal, As ei2mal@yahoo.com is a yahoo e-mail address it will have associated with it an Yahoo ID. If you can sign into Yahoo! Groups as ei2mal@yahoo.com I think that you will then have to join the RSGB_LF_Group with that e-mail address. This will be a different membership than the one under your talktalk e-mail address. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.214.171 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (johngould88[at]googlemail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (johngould88[at]googlemail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d2a449809c9c1ff1983612d049372878 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Black Sheep Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0447f2a625335e04c1b96a6b X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:516437120:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d243.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404d4fce062511a2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --f46d0447f2a625335e04c1b96a6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal, As ei2mal@yahoo.com is a yahoo e-mail address it will have associated with it an Yahoo ID. If you can sign into Yahoo! Groups as ei2mal@yahoo.com I think that you will then have to join the RSGB_LF_Group with that e-mail address. This will be a different membership than the one under your talktalk e-mail address. Once joined, using the web interface, you can then add your talktalk e-mail address and choose to use that for the forwarding of the e-mails from the list. 73 John, G3WKL On 5 June 2012 10:28, mal hamilton wrote: > ** > John > My yahoo id is ei2aemal@yahoo.com > This ID works when I sign in - no problem but I still cannot get anythin= g > from the list on the left of page. > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John Gould > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: Black Sheep > > Mal, > > Thanks, interesting point. I can see that you are a member, but on my > admin window I can see that you are missing a Yahoo ID. Without this you > don't get all the web facilities, like access to the poll, files, etc. > > I'm not sure whether you can set this up yourself by creating a Yahoo ID, > but if not I can initiate a request for you to complete the formalities. > > 73 John, G3WKL > > > On 4 June 2012 19:11, mal hamilton wrote: > >> ** >> John >> With my talktalk email account, I cannot access any of the options that >> you specify. a Gmail account might be different >> g3kev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* John Gould >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 3:03 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: Black Sheep >> >> Stefan, >> >> I not sure that you are correct in saying that one needs a yahoo account= . >> I've subscribed to Yahoo! Groups with my Gmail account and that worked = OK, >> so you should be able to join the RSGB_LF_Group with your Heidelberg e-m= ail >> account, wait for the membership to be authorised by one of the moderato= rs, >> vote and then un-subscribe. >> >> I've not run a poll on this list - it was so easy to set up a poll on th= e >> other group that everyone can see who voted and how they voted. >> >> 73 John, G3WKL >> >> On 4 June 2012 15:50, Stefan Sch=E4fer < >> Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: >> >>> Hi Clive, LF, >>> >>> For those who simply subscribed to the list but without having a yahoo >>> account it is not possible to vote! This situation is advantaging the >>> pro-yahoo party. Please remind those who are blind for such facts that >>> there are further members (outside the poll) who want to codeterminate = in >>> this process. >>> >>> My vote is pro blacksheep and i would agree with the 2 group compromise= . >>> As long as the two groups are not treated like competitors, where one h= as >>> to win and the other will be shut down after some time. >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> Am 04.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Clive Lorton: >>> >>>> If you have voted it is possible to change your vote before the voting >>>> period ends. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > --f46d0447f2a625335e04c1b96a6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,

As ei2mal@yahoo= .com is a yahoo e-mail address it will have associated with it an Yahoo= ID. =A0If you can sign into Yahoo! Groups as ei2mal@yahoo.com I think that you will then have to join the RSG= B_LF_Group with that e-mail address. This will be a different membership th= an the one under your talktalk e-mail address. =A0

Once joined, using the web interface, you can then add = your talktalk e-mail address and choose to use that for the forwarding of t= he e-mails from the list.

73 John, G3WKL

On 5 June 2012 10:28, mal hamilton <g3kevma= l@talktalk.net> wrote:
John
My yahoo id is ei2aemal@yahoo.com
This ID works when I sign in - no problem but I= =20 still=A0 cannot get anything from the list on the left of page.
de mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John Gould
Sent: Tuesd= ay, June 05, 2012 9:10=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Black Sheep

Mal, =A0

Thanks, interesting point. =A0I can see that you are a member, but o= n=20 my admin window I can see that you are missing a Yahoo ID. =A0Without thi= s=20 you don't get all the web facilities, like access to the poll, files,= etc.=20 =A0

I'm not sure whether you can set this up yourself by creating a = Yahoo ID,=20 but if not I can initiate a request for you to complete the formalities.= =20 =A0

73 John, G3WKL


On 4 June 2012 19:11, mal hamilton <g3k= evmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
John
With my talktalk email account, =A0I cannot a= ccess=20 any of the options that you specify. a Gmail account might be=20 different
g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From: John Gould
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:0= 3=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Black=20 Sheep

Stefan,=20

I not sure that you are correct in saying that one needs a yahoo= =20 account. =A0I've subscribed to Yahoo! Groups with my Gmail accoun= t and=20 that worked OK, so you should be able to join the RSGB_LF_Group with = your=20 Heidelberg e-mail account, wait for the membership to be authorised b= y one=20 of the moderators, vote and then un-subscribe. =A0

I've not run a poll on this list - it was so easy to set up = a poll on=20 the other group that everyone can see who voted and how they voted.= =20 =A0

73 John, G3WKL

On 4 June 2012 15:50, Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Clive, LF,

For those who simply subscribed to the list but= =20 without having a yahoo account it is not possible to vote! This=20 situation is advantaging the pro-yahoo party. Please remind those w= ho=20 are blind for such facts that there are further members (outside th= e=20 poll) who want to codeterminate in this process.

My vote is = pro=20 blacksheep and i would agree with the 2 group compromise. As long a= s the=20 two groups are not treated like competitors, where one has to win a= nd=20 the other will be shut down after some time.

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

Am 04.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Clive Lorton:
If=20 you have voted it is possible to change your vote before the voti= ng=20 period ends.
=A0=20




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