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[86.30.58.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m20sm15176844wie.6.2012.06.03.13.22.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <20120603.125020.1661.559237@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> From: Roger Lapthorn In-Reply-To: <20120603.125020.1661.559237@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-Id: <9C298013-8A12-4BA2-AE19-ED9784DEB482@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:22:32 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9B206) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: HI Bob, You can use your normal email to join a Yahoo group. Yahoo then gives you options how you want to receive messages e.g. as normal emails, just read posts on the web or get daily digests of posts that day. You can keep personal details well hidden should you so wish. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.212.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: e7c02b6e85723bae4746298f7f529717 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7D735FF9-7443-403E-878B-F719FCDBE0B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:481066848:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m019.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608d4fcbc7e1786e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-7D735FF9-7443-403E-878B-F719FCDBE0B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HI Bob, You can use your normal email to join a Yahoo group. Yahoo then gives you op= tions how you want to receive messages e.g. as normal emails, just read post= s on the web or get daily digests of posts that day. You can keep personal d= etails well hidden should you so wish.=20 In about 15 years of Yahoo group membership of around 15 different groups on= a wide range of subjects it has worked flawlessly with no spam and no secur= ity issues. =20 Honestly I am quite surprised by all the fuss about the move: it just works w= ell in my experience. My recommendation is join the new group and enjoy all i= t has to offer. Give it a week or so and all the posts will return to on-top= ic LF related subjects.=20 73s Roger G3XBM -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- On 3 Jun 2012, at 20:49, riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote: > Alright > I signed up and created a yahoo account first thing I had to do was create= an E mail address > and then fill out my user information,, I believe the user info is set to s= tay hidden > so at this point,, what is next,, how do I sign up for the LF reflector/gr= oup > I really dont like doing this ,, but what the heck > when I find the new reflector will it ask how to bundle my traffic and wil= l that only be accessible to me > after I sign on for the Yahooie e mail or can I have that sent to my Juno a= ccount and not need to sign > on to the yahoo account > =20 > Bob K3DJC > =20 > On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:16:55 +0100 Roger Lapthorn = writes: > Mal (et al), >=20 > Please read my most recent posts on the Yahoo group for my views on modera= tion.=20 >=20 > It is unusual to ban anyone but where a member has been grossly offensi= ve, repeatedly rude and hurtful to others, or consistently off-topic then th= e moderators have the right (duty even) to delete such posts or even suspend= membership. I repeat this is highly unlikely if people are respectful of ot= hers and post on-topic without getting personal and offensive.=20 >=20 > Now, let's please get back to LF matters and on the Yahoo group where most= seem perfectly happy.=20 >=20 > 73s > Roger G3XBM >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- >=20 > On 3 Jun 2012, at 18:03, "mal hamilton" wrote: >=20 >> How about an apology Eddie and a confirmation from G3XBM >> G3KEV >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tony >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:56 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status >>=20 >> Umm, sorry Eddie ;-) >> =20 >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Roger Lapthorn >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:51 PM >> Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE >> =20 >> >> Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. >> >> =20 >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: g3zjo >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:42 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status >>=20 >> On 03/06/2012 15:52, mal hamilton wrote: >>>=20 >>> Well John >>> When you get G3XBM in a email/posting some time back indicating that a m= ove to Yahoo would enable more control to ban persons like me whose opinions= and point of view differ from his, this is hardly encouraging or democrati= c. >>> A sysop is necessary to ensure smooth operation of any organised group b= ut not CENSORSHIP or BANNING. >>>=20 >> Come on Mal >>=20 >> I am sure Roger can stick up for himself but please don't resort to lies.= >>=20 >> Eddie >> =20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-7D735FF9-7443-403E-878B-F719FCDBE0B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
HI Bob,

You can use your normal email to join a Yahoo group. Yahoo t= hen gives you options how you want to receive messages e.g. as normal emails= , just read posts on the web or get daily digests of posts that day.  <= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(2= 6, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.= 230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Yo= u can keep personal details well hidden should you so wish. 

In about 15 years of Yahoo group membership of around 1= 5 different groups on a wide range of subjects it has worked flawlessly with= no spam and no security issues.  

Honestly I a= m quite surprised by all the fuss about the move: it just works well in my e= xperience. My recommendation is join the new group and enjoy all it has t= o offer. Give it a week or so and all the posts will return to on-topic LF r= elated subjects. 

73s
Roger G= 3XBM

-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 3 Jun 2012, at 2= 0:49, riese-k3djc@juno.com wrote= :

Alright
I signed up and created a yahoo account first thing I had to do was cre= ate=20 an E mail address
and then fill out my user information,, I believe the user info is set t= o=20 stay hidden
so at this point,, what is next,, how do I sign up for the LF=20 reflector/group
I really dont like doing this ,, but what the heck
when I find the new reflector will it ask how to bundle=20 my traffic and will that only be accessible to me
after I sign on for the Yahooie e mail or can I have that sent to my Ju= no=20 account and not need to sign
on to the yahoo account
 
Bob K3DJC
 
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:16:55 +0100 Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>=20 writes:
Mal (et al),

Please read my most recent posts on the Yahoo group for my views on=20= moderation. 

It is unusual to ban anyone but where a member has been grossly=20 offensive, repeatedly rude and hurtful to others, or consistently off-topi= c=20 then the moderators have the right (duty even) to delete such posts or eve= n=20 suspend membership. I repeat this is highly unlikely if people are respect= ful=20 of others and post on-topic without getting personal and=20 offensive. 

Now, let's please get back to LF matters and on the Yahoo group where= =20 most seem perfectly happy. 

73s
Roger G3XBM



-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 3 Jun 2012, at 18:03, "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:

How about an apology Eddie and a confirmation f= rom=20 G3XBM
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Tony
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:5= 6=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.:=20= Reflector status

Umm, sorry Eddie ;-)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Roger Lapthorn
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9= :51=20 PM
Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Y= ahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE
 
<snip>
Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances.
<snip>
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 g3zjo
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4= :42=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.= :=20 Reflector status

On 03/06/2012 15:52, mal hamilton wrote:=20
Well John
When you get G3XBM in a email/posting so= me time=20 back indicating that a move to Yahoo would enable more control to b= an=20 persons like me whose opinions and point of view differ from his,=20=  this is hardly encouraging or democratic.
A sysop is necessary to ensure smooth op= eration=20 of any organised group but not CENSORSHIP or=20 BANNING.

=
Come on Mal

I am sure Roger can stick up for himself but= =20 please don't resort to lies.

Eddie
 
 
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