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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Horst, quoting WRC-12 document 362-E: "The maximum equivalent isotropically radiated power (e.i.r.p.) of stations in the amateur service using frequencies in the band 472-479 kHz shall not exceed 1 W. Administrations may increase this limit of e.i.r.p. to 5 W in portions of their territory which are at a distance of over 800 km from the borders of Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, the Russian Federation, Iran (Islamic Republic of), Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Oman, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Syrian Arab Republic, Kyrgyzstan, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Ukraine and Yemen. In this frequency band, stations in the amateur service shall not cause harmful interference to, or claim protection from, stations of the aeronautical radionavigation service." 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Administrations may increase this limit of e.i.r.p. to 5 W in = portions of their territory which are at a distance of over 800 km from the= borders of Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Com= oros, Djibouti, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, the Russian Federation, Iran (= Islamic Republic of), Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mor= occo, Mauritania, Oman, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Syrian Arab Republic, Kyrgyzstan= , Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Ukraine and Yemen. In this frequency band, stati= ons in the amateur service shall not cause harmful interference to, or clai= m protection from, stations of the aeronautical radionavigation service." So according to this it is either 1W EIRP or 5W EIRP. But this values shoul= d be seen as a maximum, national authorities can be more rigid. I haven't had a close look on a map, but it might be that the eastern part = of Germany is within the 800km protection zone (Russie, Belarus). 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens "Horst St=F6cker" [horst.stoecker@web.de] Verzonden: woensdag 20 juni 2012 9:54 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Aw: LF: Text of MF-Allocation to German Hams Just 1W ERP - this will be also the maximum power after the full implementa= tion of WRC2012 in 2013. I got this information also by the BNetzA. What wa= s the maximum power in WRC2012? The DARC, especially DK4VW, made a big deal. Really? The new allocation will only ge for the class A, not for the class E. Whats= so funny about? With DI2AN I was allowed to transmit with max. 9W ERP. Any= one - not just HAMs - still can get these licences in germany. As HAM with = class E even not 1W ERP - just nothing. It's a similar situation as with the HAM band >250GHz. But with one Differe= nce: When >250GHz became a HAM band in DL the RegTP (now BNetzA) remembered= that there were experimental stations (like my DA5FS) with every kind of l= icences. So one decided for the only logical consequence: >250THz ist still= allocated to class A AND E HAMs. Really a big deal about 492kHz! I know ones more why I left the club! Horst DO1KHS (ex DA5FS, ex DI2AN) Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2012 um 13:57 Uhr Von: DK1IS An: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Text of MF-Allocation to German Hams Dear group, to whom it may concern: enclosed please find the official text of the MF-allocation in Germany which I=B4ve got today via email from our authorising agency "Bundesnetzagentur" (BNetzA). 73 and cul on MF! Tom, DK1IS JN59WK Ihr WEB.DE Postfach immer dabei: die kostenlose WEB.DE Mail App f=FCr iPhon= e und Android. https://produkte.web.de/freemail_mobile_startseite/ --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FAB1D1FICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Horst,

 

quoting WRC-12 document 362-E:

"The maximum equivalen= t isotropically radiated power (e.i.r.p.) of= stations in the amateur service using frequencies = in the band 472-479 kHz shall not exceed 1 W. Administrations may increase = ;this limit of e.i.r.p. to 5 W in portions of&nbs= p;their territory which are at a distan= ce of over 800 km from the borders of Algeria,&nb= sp;Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, China, C= omoros, Djibouti, Egypt, United Arab Emirates<= /a>, the Russian Federation, Iran (Islamic R= epublic of), Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco= , Mauritania, Oman, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Syrian=  Arab Republic, Kyrgyzstan, Somalia= , Sudan, Tunisia, Ukraine and Yemen. In this frequency band, stations= in the amateur service shall not cause=  harmful interference to, or claim = ;protection from, stations of the aeronautical&nb= sp;radionavigation service."

So according= to this it is either 1W EIRP or 5W EIRP. But<= /a> this values should be&n= bsp;seen as a maximum, national authorities&= nbsp;can be more rigid.

I haven't had a close look on<= /a> a map, but it might be=  that the eastern part of Germany i= s within the 800km protection zone (Rus= sie, Belarus).

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens "Horst St=F6cker" [hors= t.stoecker@web.de]
Verzonden: woensdag 20 juni 2012 9:54
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Aw: LF: Text of MF-Allocation to German Hams

Just 1W ERP - this will be also the maximum power after the full imple= mentation of WRC2012 in 2013. I got this information also by the BNetzA. Wh= at was the maximum power in WRC2012?
The DARC, especially DK4VW, made a big deal. Really?
The new allocation will only ge for the class A, not for the class E. = Whats so funny about? With DI2AN I was allowed to transmit with max. 9W ERP= . Anyone - not just HAMs - still can get these licences in germany. As HAM = with class E even not 1W ERP - just nothing.
It's a similar situation as with the HAM band >250GHz. But with one= Difference: When >250GHz became a HAM band in DL the RegTP (now BNetzA)= remembered that there were experimental stations (like my DA5FS) with ever= y kind of licences. So one decided for the only logical consequence: >250THz ist still allocated to class A AN= D E HAMs.
Really a big deal about 492kHz! I know ones more why I left the club!<= br>
Horst DO1KHS (ex DA5FS, ex DI2AN)

Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Jun= i 2012 um 13:57 Uhr
Von: DK1IS <DK1IS@kabelmail.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Betreff: LF: Text of MF-Allocation to German Hams
Dear group,

to whom it may concern: enclosed please find the official text of the
MF-allocation in Germany which I=B4ve got today via email from our
authorising agency "Bundesnetzagentur" (BNetzA).

73 and cul on MF!

Tom, DK1IS
JN59WK


  

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