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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:56:13 +0100
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Black Sheep
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Dear Stefan,
If you visit the group website the poll button is on the left. Press it, vot=
e and leave thereafter. But I am still puzzled why you really have such an a=
version to Yahoo Groups which thousands of hams have used happily and freely=
 for years. They are a GOOD resource.=20

Dear Mal,
This all started as a simple suggestion of mine: Yahoo Groups offer everythi=
ng this reflector has (speed,email flash messages etc) and so yet much more t=
oo.  I had NO wish to create a problem, especially with good people like Ste=
fan who I greatly respect. I have never sought conflict and certainly my vie=
ws on moderation have been totally misrepresented. Please, can we cool it?

John (G3WKL),=20
I am rapidly losing the will to live :-) . Like me, you have only been tryin=
g to do the best for LFers, including finding new ways to share knowledge an=
d data with newcomers. I am so sorry this has become so contentious.=20

73s
Roger=20

-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 4 Jun 2012, at 16:03, John Gould <johngould88@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Stefan,
>=20
> I not sure that you are correct in saying that one needs a yahoo account. =
 I've subscribed to Yahoo! Groups with my Gmail account and that worked OK, s=
o you should be able to join the RSGB_LF_Group with your Heidelberg e-mail a=
ccount, wait for the membership to be authorised by one of the moderators, v=
ote and then un-subscribe. =20
>=20
> I've not run a poll on this list - it was so easy to set up a poll on the o=
ther group that everyone can see who voted and how they voted. =20
>=20
> 73 John, G3WKL
>=20
> On 4 June 2012 15:50, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelb=
erg.de> wrote:
> Hi Clive, LF,
>=20
> For those who simply subscribed to the list but without having a yahoo acc=
ount it is not possible to vote! This situation is advantaging the pro-yahoo=
 party. Please remind those who are blind for such facts that there are furt=
her members (outside the poll) who want to codeterminate in this process.
>=20
> My vote is pro blacksheep and i would agree with the 2 group compromise. A=
s long as the two groups are not treated like competitors, where one has to w=
in and the other will be shut down after some time.
>=20
> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>=20
> Am 04.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Clive Lorton:
> If you have voted it is possible to change your vote before the voting per=
iod ends.
>  =20
>=20
>=20

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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Dear Stefan,</div><div>If y=
ou visit the group website the poll button is on the left. Press it, vote an=
d leave thereafter. But I am still puzzled why you really have such an avers=
ion to Yahoo Groups which thousands of hams have used happily and freely for=
 years. They are a GOOD resource.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Dear Mal,</=
div><div>This all started as a simple suggestion of mine: Yahoo Groups offer=
 everything this reflector has (speed,email flash messages etc) and so yet m=
uch more too. &nbsp;I had NO wish to create a problem, especially with good p=
eople like Stefan who I greatly respect. I have never sought conflict and ce=
rtainly my views on moderation have been totally misrepresented. Please, can=
 we cool it?</div><div><br></div><div>John (G3WKL),&nbsp;</div><div>I am rap=
idly losing the will to live :-) . Like me, you have only been trying to do t=
he best for LFers, including finding new ways to share knowledge and data wi=
th newcomers. I am so sorry this has become so contentious.&nbsp;</div><div>=
<br></div><div>73s</div><div>Roger&nbsp;<br><br>-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver=
 --</div><div><br>On 4 Jun 2012, at 16:03, John Gould &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
johngould88@googlemail.com">johngould88@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Stefan,<div><br></div><div>=
I not sure that you are correct in saying that one needs a yahoo account. &n=
bsp;I've subscribed to Yahoo! Groups with my Gmail account and that worked O=
K, so you should be able to join the RSGB_LF_Group with your Heidelberg e-ma=
il account, wait for the membership to be authorised by one of the moderator=
s, vote and then un-subscribe. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've not run a poll on this list - it was so easy to set=
 up a poll on the other group that everyone can see who voted and how they v=
oted. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>73 John, G3WKL</div><div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">
On 4 June 2012 15:50, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de" target=3D"_blank">Stefan.Schaef=
er@iup.uni-heidelberg.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
Hi Clive, LF,<br>
<br>
For those who simply subscribed to the list but without having a yahoo accou=
nt it is not possible to vote! This situation is advantaging the pro-yahoo p=
arty. Please remind those who are blind for such facts that there are furthe=
r members (outside the poll) who want to codeterminate in this process.<br>

<br>
My vote is pro blacksheep and i would agree with the 2 group compromise. As l=
ong as the two groups are not treated like competitors, where one has to win=
 and the other will be shut down after some time.<br>
<br>
73, Stefan/DK7FC<br>
<br>
Am 04.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Clive Lorton:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If you have voted it is possible to change your vote before the voting perio=
d ends.<br>
 &nbsp; <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote></body></html>=

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