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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: MF, As i arrived on the hill, a essential thing was missed: The antenna! Someone has carefully removed the complete construction, just a piece of a few meters remained in a tree. A pity :-( That must have been forest workers or so. It was to be expected that this will happen but i didn't expect that the complete construction will be taken. Don't know when this happened, i didn't use the earth antenna for a long time. 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A pity :-( That must have been forest workers or so. It was to be expected that=20 this will happen but i didn't expect that the complete construction will=20 be taken. Don't know when this happened, i didn't use the earth antenna for a long=20 time. Now i have just 1100m of that wire left, at home. I think i won't build a new earth antenna, not at all at this location=20 ;-) But i will try a MF dipole in some time. Thinking back what was done with this antenna, Michael Oexner received=20 me in 45km distance on 8970 Hz in DFCW-600. Also F5WK and others=20 reported to see me in QRSS-3 on 137 kHz. It was an interesting project=20 and worth the effort, even for that short time. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 30.06.2012 14:41, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > MF, > > Another thing. Right now it is 32 =B0C here. Best place it to stay on=20 > the beach or on the top of a hill in the forest. Today i choose the=20 > forest. > > Accidentally there is my 700m (ish) long earth antenna which has an=20 > average height above ground of 8m. Today i want to use it as a dipole=20 > for the 630m band. The feed point is somewhere in the middle but not=20 > exactly known. > > What will the efficiency and radiation pattern be? Is it a dipole or=20 > what? EZNEC says it will have 10 Ohm Z=3DR at resonance (Cu losses +=20 > "typical" ground losses). > > The WX forcast says there will be much QRN in the evening, anyway. > > Maybe someone can listen from time to time on 476.5 kHz? I will listen=20 > on the band (+ 500 kHz +-) too and maybe a QSO is possible. Who knows... > > If the antenna behaves as a dipole it should radiate E/W, so good=20 > chances for UK, PA and DF6NM, DJ2LF... > > I'll start now and may be "QRV" in 2 hours or so. > > Here, the first time my PA will operate in /p. Nice that it is smaller=20 > than a VHS video cassette and allows to generate QRP at high efficiency= ! > > 73, CU, Stefan/DK7FC >