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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes, in any way it would be nice again to put some focus on VLF. It's a long time ago i regularly monitored my own VLF grabber (http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html). Looks like SAQ has tuned up today for a time arround 10 UTC. The Alphas are OFF again and the noise is maybe 10 dB higher than in winther, as a maximum. I do not change the brightness between summer and winther. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 027eb28428a0ed4e20e06b28d08cfc7b Subject: Re: LF: Re: New VLF Grabber in Darmstadt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463900128:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad14fe8f0f93cce X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Yes, in any way it would be nice again to put some focus on VLF. It's a=20 long time ago i regularly monitored my own VLF grabber=20 (http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html). Looks like SAQ has tuned up today for a time arround 10 UTC. The Alphas=20 are OFF again and the noise is maybe 10 dB higher than in winther, as a=20 maximum. I do not change the brightness between summer and winther. Opera 4 H, what the hell is that? How long does it take to get a full decode in that mode and what is the=20 content of the decoded message? If 4 H means 4 hours and the content is=20 a full callsign and locator (about like in WOLF) then maybe it can be=20 compared with DFCW-120? If so, i guess the range of a 1 mW ERP station=20 will be below 100 km, if conds are good (i.e. no QRN and during the gap=20 in the morning which is arround 8...11 UTC) and the RX is is typical. We know that no digimode can do miracles. However we often saw stations=20 just transmitting a few dashes. If these dashes will satisfy all, it=20 would be fine. Due to other projects (ah, i remember, it was the LF DX to VK times) i=20 stopped the local VLF experiments with the LOPT transformer. Also is=20 showed me that there is no real alternative to an air coil if a serious=20 ERP is goal. That was clear in advance but the proof was clearer than i=20 thought. As i write these lines, a small VLF flame starts to burn again. But=20 there is the MF project on the table as well... What about all the other VLF transmitting stations? We have been 7=20 (OK2BVG, OE3GHB, DF6NM, G3XIZ, DJ8WX, OE5ODL, PA3CPM, DK7FC) who passed=20 distances above 1 Lambda. Did i forget someone? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 26.06.2012 00:39, schrieb Graham: > Would be the first with Opera 4 H decode over this side of=20 > the UK as well ! > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:20 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Re: New VLF Grabber in Darmstadt > >> Mal, >> >> Am 25.06.2012 20:08, schrieb mal hamilton: >>> Stefan >>> This sounds interesting and given time I might get Transmitting on th= e >>> Dreamers band. >> Yes, give it a try! You know how it is done and need less effort due=20 >> to your higher antenna C and mains availability. >> You can surely be the first who will be visible in EU from the UK. >> >>> I have all the equipment suitable plus antennas but I am busy with=20 >>> other >>> persuits at present. >>> >> Take care and the time to carefully wind a suitable coil on a large=20 >> tube. 60 cm, rather 80 cm diameter is recommended. You have Paul=20 >> Nicholsons grabber in a not to far distance, which will be very=20 >> helpful for the first tests! >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" >>> To: >>> Cc: "Paul"; "Christoph Maurer" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:18 PM >>> Subject: LF: New VLF Grabber in Darmstadt >>> >>> >>> >>>> VLF, >>>> >>>> It's a long time ago that we put the focus on VLF. Today i want to >>>> inform you about a new VLF Grabber at the Technical University of >>>> Darmstadt,=20 >>>> http://skmail.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de/gvw/grabber.html run >>>> by Christoph Maurer who is working in the nuclear science institute. >>>> Seems they want to observe the VLF spectrum and try to make some >>>> earthquake precursors. >>>> I've been in contact with Christoph some month ago and convinced=20 >>>> him to >>>> share the received spectrum with us by running such a grabber :-) He >>>> even runs a "DFCW-6000" window on that site. There are no CPU=20 >>>> resources >>>> for that at the moment though. >>>> The distance to Heidelberg is 51.3 km, >>>> http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49HV80ST&from=3Djn49ik00wd so = it >>>> should be easy to get a reception on 8970 Hz (Dreamers band :-) ) ev= en >>>> in summer. >>>> If i find the time in the coming weeks i'm planning a summer VLF=20 >>>> event. >>>> BTW my special permission to fly a kite in 300m AGL expires in June=20 >>>> 2012 >>>> :-( These days, i'm not sure whether it makes sense to try to=20 >>>> extend it. >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>>> >>>> >>> >>