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At least i hope that you (and John) don't ignore that here are many others who do not want a yahoo group due to various reasons and will not migrate without a fatal disharmony in a new group! *Please do not ignore that!* [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 54c274b8b0f8da777e8f702c98fe24ad Subject: Re: LF: O.T.: Reflector status Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040503020905020808000609" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:435429088:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40584fcb60f03ca2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040503020905020808000609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q53D3osd022823 Roger, I didn't expect that you try to understand me. At least i hope that you=20 (and John) don't ignore that here are many others who do not want a=20 yahoo group due to various reasons and will not migrate without a fatal=20 disharmony in a new group! *Please do not ignore that!* We all know some additional features of a yahoo group but these will not=20 achieve much more on LF! Is your intention really to gain newcomers by=20 making old emails available? Really? I think it is rather a power game,=20 who will be the winners party. But there will be only losers and the=20 conversations will suffer in harmony! For example, PA7EY is a very newcomer here on LF. He was moved to LF=20 because he discovered my (often complained) CW beacon on 137.0 kHz. Newcomers are gained by doing exciting things in the presence, not in=20 the past!! And most of the group member never became tired to repeat the=20 basics how to set up a TX system for example. Contrarwise, we like to=20 talk about the basics and often this caused new discussions where many=20 learned something new. A part of the nice work here. "AND SO MUCH MORE" MORE is not always the question! Sometimes a well=20 known place works better. You know my very old car from the VLF images.=20 It is 23 years old. There are MANY cars which offer SO MUCH MORE (air=20 conditioning, air bags, seat heater....) but i simply want to drive this=20 car. It is my car! There are also XYLs that can do SO MUCH MORE. Would you change? Stefan Am 03.06.2012 14:31, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > Stefan, > > Sorry but I just can't see what all the fuss is about. Everything this=20 > reflector can do AND SO MUCH MORE can be achieved with the new Yahoo=20 > Group. > > Please, support it. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > On 3 June 2012 12:51, Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 > > wrote: > > > > > > > --=20 > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > --------------040503020905020808000609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger,

I didn't expect that you try to understand me. At least i hope that you (and John) don't ignore that here are many others who do not want a yahoo group due to various reasons and will not migrate without a fatal disharmony in a new group!
Please do not ignore that!

We all know some additional features of a yahoo group but these will not achieve much more on LF! Is your intention really to gain newcomers by making old emails available? Really? I think it is rather a power game, who will be the winners party. But there will be only losers and the conversations will suffer in harmony!

For example, PA7EY is a very newcomer here on LF. He was moved to LF because he discovered my (often complained) CW beacon on 137.0 kHz.
Newcomers are gained by doing exciting things in the presence, not in the past!! And most of the group member never became tired to repeat the basics how to set up a TX system for example. Contrarwise, we like to talk about the basics and often this caused new discussions where many learned something new. A part of the nice work here.

"AND SO MUCH MORE"  MORE is not always the question! Sometimes a well known place works better. You know my very old car from the VLF images. It is 23 years old. There are MANY cars which offer SO MUCH MORE (air conditioning, air bags, seat heater....) but i simply want to drive this car. It is my car!
There are also XYLs that can do SO MUCH MORE. Would you change?

 Stefan


Am 03.06.2012 14:31, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:
Stefan,

Sorry but I just can't see what all the fuss is about. Everything this reflector can do AND SO MUCH MORE can be achieved with the new Yahoo Group.

Please, support it.

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 3 June 2012 12:51, Stefan Schäfer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:





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http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/

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