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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Bob  If you are directing that mail to me then you need to look at earlier posts.  However if you are a cheque book Ham then it will be of little interest to you.  You say dangle we say dongle..... :-0  These are TV front ends that use the SDR principle and plug straight into your USB port on your Lap top. Normally they are for recieving local digital TV and radio plus a FM band as well. They are available in the US and they can be made to tune from about 60megs to about 1.7gigs. If I need to tell you more please ask but this is all in public domain on the web (but not in Ham mags, at least not in UK). I have played with these things for about 6 months now and for a few quid (dollars) are fun. If you build a simple up converter with a say a 60meg LO guess what, you have an all band HF radio as well.  Oh and BTW I was not entirely sure what Tracy was getting at below?? We are talking 10 dollars not 300+dollars.  73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.109.203 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d5ac66e7920295f519efeb68ecc59e6f Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-357169082-1933783804-1340654283=:10216" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:485739520:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d007.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604a4fe8c306291e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ---357169082-1933783804-1340654283=:10216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bob=0A=C2=A0=0AIf you are directing that mail to me then you need to loo= k at earlier posts.=0A=C2=A0=0AHowever if you are a cheque book Ham then it= will be of little interest to you. =0A=C2=A0=0AYou say dangle we say dongl= e..... :-0=0A=C2=A0=0AThese are TV front ends that use the SDR principle an= d plug straight into your USB port on your Lap top. Normally they are for r= ecieving local digital TV and radio plus a FM band as well. They are availa= ble in the US and they can be made to tune from about 60megs to about 1.7gi= gs. If=C2=A0I need to tell you more please ask but this is all in public do= main on the web (but not in Ham mags, at least not in UK). I have played wi= th these things for about 6 months now=C2=A0and for a few quid (dollars) ar= e fun. If you build a simple up converter with a say a 60meg LO guess what,= you have an all band=C2=A0HF radio as well.=0A=C2=A0=0AOh and BTW I was no= t entirely sure what Tracy was getting at below?? We are talking 10 dollars= not 300+dollars.=0A=C2=A0=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A___________= _____________________=0A From: "riese-k3djc@juno.com" =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Monday, 25 June 2012, 19:34= =0ASubject: Re: LF: SDR programs=0A =0A=0A=EF=BB=BF =0A=0A=0ABeen Kinda o= ut of any loop on this=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0A=0ABUT =0A=0Aif what I read,, if I c= onnect a TV tuner usb dangle witht he correct chip =0Aset =0Ait will cover = MF to HF using=C2=A0 an appropriate program. I use HDSDR with =0Amy SDR IQ = =0Awhich I like for general reception. So by using the proper chip set =0AH= DSDR =0Awill run that TV dangle=C2=A0as a HF radio =0A=0A?? =0A=0ABob K3DJC= =0A=0AOn Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:31:00 +0100 "Tracey Gardner" =0Awrites: =0AHello Pete =0A>=0A>If we're talking about low p= riced SDRs, there is a relatively new kid on the block in the form of the = Afedri SDR-Net from Israel. =0A>It is what I will refer to as a "proper" SD= R i.e. a direct sampling digital down conversion SDR. =0A>It covers 100kHz= to 30MHz, has a maximum bandwidth of 1.25MHz and has a LAN interface for = remote access. =0A>The best bit is that it costs just over =C2=A3200 inc sh= ipping and VAT. =0A>=0A>You can find more details here =0A>=0A>http://4z5lv= .net/index.php/afedri-sdr-net-description =0A>=0A>https://www.box.com/s/1cd= 9353fa35b1022925e =0A>=0A>I've no connection other than being a satisfied c= ustomer. =0A>=0A>73s Tracey G5VU =0A>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>Fro= m: M0FMT =0A>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>Sent: Thursday, June = 21, 2012 9:55 PM =0A>>Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Hi Mal= =0A>>=0A>>The whole reason these things are getting so much attention is t= he price and the fact they are independent of a sound card or=C2=A0A/D co= nverter.=C2=A0They are not really suitable for or give any advantage on LF = because you need an up converter in front. A Softrock SDR with a good soun= d card will out perform these sticks at MF/LF.IMHO=C2=A0I don't think its = worth persuing to be honest. However I think with the DVB-T sticks people = have been opening them up to look at the SMT chip marking if not sure. It = looks like they don't erase the markings like some well known LF TX suppie= rs do. Oh and the software plug-ins are only for the RTL2832 chipset.=0A>>= =0A>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>____________________________= ____=0A>> =0A> ---357169082-1933783804-1340654283=:10216 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bob
=
 
If you are directing that mail to = me then you need to look at earlier posts.
&n= bsp;
However if you are a cheque book Ham then it will be o= f little interest to you.
 
<= span>You say dangle we say dongle..... :-0
&n= bsp;
These are TV front ends that use the SDR principle and= plug straight into your USB port on your Lap top. Normally they are for re= cieving local digital TV and radio plus a FM band as well. They are availab= le in the US and they can be made to tune from about 60megs to about 1.7gig= s. If I need to tell you more please ask but this is all in public dom= ain on the web (but not in Ham mags, at least not in UK). I have played with these things for about 6 months now and for a few quid (d= ollars) are fun. If you build a simple up converter with a say a 60meg LO g= uess what, you have an all band HF radio as well.
 
Oh and BTW I was not entirely sure what Tr= acy was getting at below?? We are talking 10 dollars not 300+dollars.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
=
From: "riese-k3djc@juno.com" <riese-k3djc@juno.com>= ;
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Sent: Monday,= 25 June 2012, 19:34
Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs

=EF=BB=BF=0A= =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A
=0A
 
=0A
Been Kinda= out of any loop on this  
=0A
 
=0A
BUT<= /div>=0A
 
=0A
if what I read,, if I connect a TV tuner u= sb dangle witht he correct chip =0Aset
=0A
it will cover MF to HF = using  an appropriate program. I use HDSDR with =0Amy SDR IQ
=0A<= div>which I like for general reception. So by using the proper chip set =0A= HDSDR
=0A
will run that TV dangle as a HF radio
=0A
=  
=0A
??
=0A
 
=0A
Bob K3DJC
=0A<= div> 
=0A
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:31:00 +0100 "Tracey Gardner"= <tracey.gardner@t= alktalk.net> =0Awrites:
=0A
=0A
Hello Pete
=0A =
 
=0A
If we're talking about low priced SDRs, there i= s a relatively new kid on =0A the block in the form of the Afedri SDR-Net = from Israel.
=0A
It is what I will refer to as a "proper" SDR i.= e. a direct sampling =0A digital down conversion SDR.
=0A
It co= vers 100kHz to 30MHz, has a maximum bandwidth of 1.25MHz and has a =0A LAN= interface for remote access.
=0A
The best bit is that it costs = just over =C2=A3200 inc shipping and VAT.
=0A
 
=0A <= div>You can find more details here
=0A
 
=0A =0A
 
=0A =0A
 
=0A
I've no = connection other than being a satisfied customer.
=0A
 =0A
73s Tracey G5VU
=0A
=0A
----- Original Message -----
=0A
From: =0A M0FMT
=0A
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A =0A
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:55 =0A PM=0A
Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs
=0A
=
=0A
=0A
Hi Mal
=0A
 
=0A The whole reason these things are getting so much attention is the =0A = price and the fact they are independent of a sound card or A/D =0A = converter. They are not really suitable for or give any advantage on L= F =0A because you need an up converter in front. A Softrock SDR with a g= ood sound =0A card will out perform these sticks at MF/LF.IMHO I do= n't think its =0A worth persuing to be honest. However I think with the = DVB-T sticks people =0A have been opening them up to look at the SMT chi= p marking if not sure. It =0A looks like they don't erase the markings l= ike some well known LF TX suppiers =0A do. Oh and the software plug-ins = are only for the RTL2832 chipset.
=0A
73 es GL Pete M0FMT = IO91UX
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A


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