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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi all  You must make sure the stick has an RTL2832 chip set! HDSDR is a windows application. The BorIP app is in a windows version (and this also gives remote operation facility) and the DLL will also run under windows. I have it working on several PCs two on Vista and one on Win 7.  The set up is not perfect in that the software can loose track of the stick LO if too large frequency jumps are undertaken and restarts of the application are required. However normal use say within the 20 to 30meg range when used as a HF IF it is not an issue. I have not explored the full envelope but on 2m and 70cms I get the local repeaters OK its great for airband RX. I think may be for 1296 it may need a Gasfet front end (this works from my experience) or very good beam.  For first hand information Google or in my case Yahooooo Balit Seeber (he is a VK Op) an OZ. He has written all the software and up set the OZ establishment by logging all the radio emitters in OZ electronically something the their government can't do........ a bit of a wiz!! and very helpful  http://spench.net/  http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/RTL2832   For info. This arrangement works well. The rate of processing data is low 8b/s which is inferior to say a softrock and sound card. But to have the HF spectrum as a continuous ribbon of tuning is a buzz. My HF converter seems to require no front end amplification in fact on 40m at night it can overload. An attenuator may be considered. The application does have a gain control and should be set carefully about mid range for starters. For LF an amp probably could be considered. The up converter is open to experiment to cover what ever is your interests.  This is a very cheap solution that works and is within any Radio Amateurs ability to make up even if just to cover VHF. The cost is peanuts...... oh and the HDSDR has offsets in dial calibration for just this set up so by using known BC stns the dial can be set very accurately making the set up a useful instrument for tracking down harmonics and [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.199 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: ce3df9f2acd7587159138e0455ceb9aa Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="435439028-84687347-1340272452=:94029" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL,YOU_WON autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:472905952:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d247.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4fe2ef826fe2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --435439028-84687347-1340272452=:94029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all=0A=C2=A0=0AYou must make sure the stick has an RTL2832 chip set!=0AH= DSDR is a windows application. The BorIP app is=C2=A0in a windows version (= and this also gives remote operation facility) and the DLL will also run un= der windows. I have it working on several PCs two on Vista and one on Win 7= .=0A=C2=A0=0AThe set up is not perfect in that the software can loose track= of the stick LO if too large frequency jumps are undertaken and restarts o= f the application are required. However normal use say within the 20 to 30m= eg range when used as a HF IF it is not an issue. I have not explored the f= ull envelope but=C2=A0on 2m and 70cms I get the local repeaters=C2=A0OK its= great for airband RX. I think may be for 1296 it may need a Gasfet front e= nd=C2=A0(this works from my experience) or very good beam.=0A=C2=A0=0AFor f= irst hand information Google or in my case Yahooooo Balit Seeber=C2=A0(he i= s a VK=C2=A0Op)=C2=A0an OZ.=C2=A0He has written all the software and up set= the OZ establishment=C2=A0by logging all the radio emitters in OZ electron= ically=C2=A0something the their government can't do........ a bit of a wiz!= ! and very helpful=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://spench.net/=0A=C2=A0=0Ahttp://wiki.spe= nch.net/wiki/RTL2832=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AFor info. This arrangement works w= ell. The rate of processing data is low 8b/s which is inferior to say a sof= trock and sound card. But to have the=C2=A0HF spectrum as a continuous ribb= on of tuning is a buzz. My HF converter seems to require no front end ampli= fication in fact on 40m at night it can overload. An attenuator may be cons= idered. The application does have a gain control and should be set carefull= y about mid range for starters. For LF an amp probably could be considered.= The up converter is open to experiment to cover what ever is your interest= s.=0A=C2=A0=0AThis is a very cheap solution that works and is within any Ra= dio Amateurs ability to make up even if just to cover VHF.=0AThe cost is pe= anuts...... oh and the HDSDR has offsets in dial calibration for just this = set up so by using known BC stns the dial can be set very accurately making= the set up a useful instrument for tracking down harmonics and sprogs.=0A7= 3 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:= Graham =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASen= t: Thursday, 21 June 2012, 0:24=0ASubject: Re: LF: SDR programs=0A =0A=0A = =0AIve=C2=A0 got=C2=A0 a=C2=A0 1970's=C2=A0 5 Guilder note=C2=A0 if =0Athat= 's=C2=A0 any=C2=A0 good ?=C2=A0 =0A=0AYou=C2=A0 need to=C2=A0 look=C2=A0 o= ut=C2=A0 for the=C2=A0 chip=C2=A0 =0Anumber=C2=A0 that's=C2=A0 being=C2=A0 = used=C2=A0 , its=C2=A0 used in =0Avarious=C2=A0 brands=C2=A0 , check the=C2= =A0 posted=C2=A0 lists=C2=A0 for=C2=A0 =0Athe=C2=A0 latest=C2=A0 info=C2=A0= , Pete=C2=A0 may=C2=A0 have the=C2=A0 =0Ainfo=C2=A0 you=C2=A0 need=C2=A0 ?= =0A=0AG. =0A=0A =0AFrom: mal hamilton =0ASent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12= :16 AM =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASubject: Re: LF: SDR program= s =0A =0ANot long. Heard the Lira was making a comeback in Italy. =0AYour = =C2=A35 stick costs 3,784,227 Lira also in some parts of Ireland they are u= sing =0Athe Punt again in some shops. =0AI have found on holidays in EU th= ey like the US$ and the =0ABritish =C2=A3 and give a good rate of exchange.= =0AI might try one of the TV digi sticks, which is the best =0Abrand =0Ad= e mal/g3kev =0A=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0 =0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: = M0FMT =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Wednesday, June 20, = 2012 6:40 PM =0A>Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs =0A>=0A> =0A> =0A>Hi all = =0A>Save those precious Euros because you don=E2=80=99t know how long the= y will be around. Try HDSDR with Balint Seeber=E2=80=99s =C2=A0BorIP app = and ExtIO.USRP DLL using =C2=A0ultra-cheap Software Defined Radio with RTL2= 832 (chip set) DVB-T USB stick. =0A>These DVB-T USB Digital TV sticks ar= e about =C2=A35 to =C2=A310 from UK source and cover about 50megs to 1.7gi= gs and with an up converter 60meg O/T osc the cheap way or expensive Monol= ithic IC local Oscillator 5v into an SLB-1 or similar block mixer; you too= can have a USB (no sound card) SDR RX with DC to UHF coverage for peanuts= all run off the USB supply just add antenna. =0A>Oh and guess what the s= tick gets you all your local digital TV stations with record facility and = all your local Digital radio and if that=E2=80=99s not enough all your loc= al FM BC as well. =C2=A0Not a lot of people know that! =0A>URLs apply=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 =0A>https://www.cosycave.co.uk/product.php?id_pr= oduct=3D239 =0A>http://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/s6ddo/rtlsdr_compa= tibility_list_v2_work_in_progress/ =0A>You won=E2=80=99t read about this = in Radcom=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. :0) =0A>Yy 73=C2=A0 Pete M0fmt =0A>=0A>= =0A>=C2=A0 =0A>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>=0A>=0A>______________________= __________=0A>From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 201= 2, 18:40=0A>Subject: Re: LF: SDR programs=0A>=0A>Hi Piotr,=0A>=0A>Thanks f= or the overview of =0A programs. That's what i searched for.=0A>But maybe = i have expressed wrongly =0A what i need. I assumed a SDR software is also= for a mono input, not only for =0A IQ inputs. Are the programs you're ref= erring on usable for both, IQ and =0A mono?=0A>Well, i'm waiting for one o= f my SL teachers (Wolf or Markus :-) ) =0A answer. If there is a solution = in SpecLab i would prefer that i =0A think...=0A>=0A>Best 73, Stefan/DK7FC= =0A>=0A>> Hi Stefan, LF=0A>> =0A>> i have SDR-IQ receiver from=C2=A0 RFSpac= e. The primary supporting =0A software for all their sdr=C2=A0 hardware is= Spectravue.=0A>> you can =0A download this program from the rfspace site:= =0A>> =0A>> http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SVDownload.html=0A>> =0A>> i do = recommend this program=C2=A0 although it is sligthly difficult =0A to get = started.=0A>> However,=C2=A0 once you get familiar with it you will =0A li= ke it:)=0A>> =0A>> on a "support" page of www.rfspace.com=C2=A0 you =0A wi= ll also find a link to sdr -radio:=0A>> =0A>> http://www.sdr-radio.com/=0A>= > =0A>>=C2=A0 they have a =0A very powerful radio console which looks like= a regular transceiver front =0A side=0A>>=C2=A0 It has many many differen= t options - of course, it does =0A take time to learn all of them but the = basic setup is rather easy..=0A>> =0A>> i also recommend=C2=A0 HDSDR softwa= re:=C2=A0 http://www.hdsdr.de/index.html=0A>> very intuitive and =0A easy = to use.=0A>> =0A>> Well, there is a growing number of sdr software =0A sup= porting=C2=A0 sdr hardware.=C2=A0 an example of such collection of sdr =0A = programs you can find here:=0A>> =0A>> https://sites.google.com/site/g4zfq= radio/soundcard_sdr_software=0A>> =0A>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0A =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0A =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0A =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 yours, Piotr, SQ7MPJ=0A>> =0A>> qth: Lodz =0A /jo91rs/=0A>> =0A>> = =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --435439028-84687347-1340272452=:94029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
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You must make sure the stick has a= n RTL2832 chip set!
HDSDR is a windows application. = The BorIP app is in a windows version (and this also gives remote oper= ation facility) and the DLL will also run under windows. I have it working = on several PCs two on Vista and one on Win 7.
 
The set up is not perfect in that the software can = loose track of the stick LO if too large frequency jumps are undertaken and= restarts of the application are required. However normal use say within th= e 20 to 30meg range when used as a HF IF it is not an issue. I have not exp= lored the full envelope but on 2m and 70cms I get the local repeaters&= nbsp;OK its great for airband RX. I think may be for 1296 it may need a Gasfet front end (this works from my experience) or very good beam.=
 
For first hand inform= ation Google or in my case Yahooooo Balit Seeber (he is a VK Op)&= nbsp;an OZ. He has written all the software and up set the OZ establis= hment by logging all the radio emitters in OZ electronically some= thing the their government can't do........ a bit of a wiz!! and very helpf= ul
 
 
http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/RTL2832=
 
 
For info. This arrangement works well. The rate of processing data is low 8b/s which is inferior t= o say a softrock and sound card. But to have the HF spectrum as a continuous ribbon of tuning is a buzz. My HF converter seems to require no= front end amplification in fact on 40m at night it can overload. An attenu= ator may be considered. The application does have a gain control and should= be set carefully about mid range for starters. For LF an amp probably coul= d be considered. The up converter is open to experiment to cover what ever = is your interests.
 
Thi= s is a very cheap solution that works and is within any Radio Amateurs abil= ity to make up even if just to cover VHF.
The cost i= s peanuts...... oh and the HDSDR has offsets in dial calibration for just t= his set up so by using known BC stns the dial can be set very accurately ma= king the set up a useful instrument for tracking down harmonics and sprogs.=
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2= 012, 0:24
Subject: Re:= LF: SDR programs

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