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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan The only two real radio amateur stations that are on frequently on LF with World wide communications experience are G3KEV and DK7FC but we have not been consulted. Those shouting loudest for Yahoo are not even active of LF or MF so that leaves 2 of us and 153 others so what is their experience and knowledge. I want to see a democratic vote on both Blacksheep and Yahoo with callsigns to see who has the credentials to make this final decision. If anyone else knows different let us know. There are several DX stations world wide who are DXing but I am often in contact by direct email and do not need any reflector. I can do without it as I do on daily HF activities, it is certainly no hinderance. Blacksheep has been useful but not essential Please contact me on direct email if you need information or skeds on LF/MF This discussion seems to be amongst a few subscribers why are there 150 members with nothing to say. It seems odd to me !! g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.243 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA 0.5 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: d0d76c369792b807e0925732d18ad9b1 Subject: LF: Re: general Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01CD427B.54F47550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:496796256:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408d4fccf70850c5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01CD427B.54F47550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan The only two real radio amateur stations that are on frequently on LF = with World wide communications experience are G3KEV and DK7FC but we = have not been consulted. Those shouting loudest for Yahoo are not even active of LF or MF so = that leaves 2 of us and 153 others so what is their experience=20 and knowledge.=20 I want to see a democratic vote on both Blacksheep and Yahoo with = callsigns to see who has the credentials to make this final decision. If anyone else knows different let us know. There are several DX stations world wide who are DXing but I am often in = contact by direct email and do not need any reflector. I can do without it as I do on daily HF activities, it is certainly no = hinderance. Blacksheep has been useful but not essential Please contact me on direct email if you need information or skeds on = LF/MF This discussion seems to be amongst a few subscribers why are there 150 = members with nothing to say. It seems odd to me !! g3kev =20 ----- Original Message - From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:43 PM Subject: LF: general Dear LF group, In the last few weeks, very sad things happened. We can't screw the = time back. But a significant damage of closeness of the group happened = i'm afraid. First members unsubscribed completely. For what? MORE? Is = that more? It's a SHAME! Maybe the "people in power" begin to realise what is happening here. I do not want to take part in the discussion any longer. All the = statements, worries, ideas, objections and appeals have been clearly = formulated, many times! Amateur radio work on 137 kHz and below 9 kHz was a very nice time and = work for me in the last 2.5 years. This wouldn't have been possible = without this group. Thank you for that! I hope we can go on together in some time. 73! 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Stefan
The only two real radio amateur stations that = are on=20 frequently on LF with World wide communications experience are = G3KEV=20 and DK7FC but we have not been consulted.
Those shouting loudest for Yahoo  are = not even=20 active of LF or MF so that leaves 2 of us and 153 others so what is = their=20 experience
and knowledge.
I want to see  a democratic vote on both = Blacksheep=20 and Yahoo with callsigns to see who has the credentials to make this = final=20 decision.
If anyone else knows different let us = know.
There are several DX stations world wide who are = DXing but=20 I am often in contact by direct email and do not need any=20 reflector.
I can  do without it as I do on daily =  HF=20 activities, it is certainly no hinderance.
Blacksheep has been useful but not essential
Please contact me on direct email if you = need=20 information or skeds on LF/MF
This discussion seems to be amongst a few = subscribers why=20 are there 150 members with nothing to say. It seems odd to me = !!
g3kev
 
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From:=20 Stefan = Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 = 3:43 PM
Subject: LF: general

Dear LF group,

In the last few weeks, very sad = things=20 happened. We can't screw the time back. But a significant damage of = closeness=20 of the group happened i'm afraid. First members unsubscribed = completely. For=20 what? MORE? Is that more? It's a SHAME!

Maybe the "people in = power"=20 begin to realise what is happening here.

I do not want to = take part=20 in the discussion any longer. All the statements, worries, ideas,=20 objections and appeals have been clearly formulated, many=20 times!

Amateur radio work on 137 kHz and below 9 kHz was a very = nice=20 time and work for me in the last 2.5 years. This wouldn't have been = possible=20 without this group. Thank you for that!
I hope we can go on = together in=20 some time.

73! Stefan/DK7FC

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