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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Reference postings from G3XBM I am concerned about items 9 and 10 Messages can be VETTED and DIFFICULT members banned. Sounds like a POLICE state and what are the credentials of those VETTING and what is a DIFFICULT member probably someone who has a different opinion or point of view from his or even a sense of HUMOUR What ever happens avoid him as a moderator [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.243 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA 0.5 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 64bc660a83b79b15f4c44d2b2147e02d Subject: LF: Re: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CD424C.0108E400" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:491941952:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40854fcca7b673d5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CD424C.0108E400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reference postings from G3XBM I am concerned about items 9 and 10 Messages can be VETTED and DIFFICULT members banned. Sounds like a POLICE state and what are the credentials of those VETTING = and what is a DIFFICULT member probably someone who has a different = opinion or point of view from his or even a sense of HUMOUR What ever happens avoid him as a moderator de g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Alan Melia ; Stefan Sch=E4fer ; = Markus Vester ; James Moritz=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:51 PM Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest that the = LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group? In over 10 years I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or = problems with any group to which I belong or moderate. Instead they have had these advantages: 1.. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered = in-boxes) 2.. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before = messages are received.=20 3.. All messages are archived and searchable. 4.. Large files can be stored. 5.. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth. 6.. Links can be stored/shared 7.. Videos can be stored. 8.. Polls can be run.=20 9.. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators = to speed up the process) 10.. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. 11.. Spam messages can be filtered 12.. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc)=20 The advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand = why the change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is = surely time. To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whatever) would = take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested members here = would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, = who owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground = rules/FAQs. Please, think about it again.=20 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CD424C.0108E400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Reference postings from G3XBM
I am concerned about items 9  and = 10
Messages can be VETTED and DIFFICULT members=20 banned.
Sounds like a POLICE state and what are the = credentials of=20 those VETTING and what is a DIFFICULT member probably someone who has a=20 different opinion or point of view from his or even a sense of=20 HUMOUR
What ever happens avoid him as a = moderator
 
de g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger=20 Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ;=20 Alan Melia ; Stefan Sch=E4fer ; = Markus=20 Vester ; James Moritz
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 = 9:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" = Yahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE

With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again = suggest=20 that the LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group?

In over 10 = years I=20 have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems with any = group to=20 which I belong or moderate.

Instead they have had these = advantages:
  1. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered=20 in-boxes)
  2. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before = messages are=20 received.=20
  3. All messages are archived and searchable.
  4. Large files can be stored.
  5. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth.
  6. Links can be stored/shared
  7. Videos can be stored.
  8. Polls can be run.=20
  9. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators = to speed=20 up the process)
  10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances.
  11. Spam messages can be filtered
  12. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc) =
The=20 advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand why = the=20 change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is surely = time.

To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or = whatever)=20 would take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested = members here=20 would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, = who=20 owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground=20 rules/FAQs.

Please, think about it again.

73s
Roger = G3XBM
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/

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