Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AFDD2380000AE; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SbGgS-0004rj-TW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:41:52 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SbGgS-0004ra-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:41:52 +0100 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SbGgQ-0003Kt-8f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:41:51 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AukFAOm8y09cHnUz/2dsb2JhbAA9AQaeT4UDkE+BCIITBQEBBQgBAQNJAiwBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQolFAEEGgYMCggGEQIKAQICAQGHbAMPq28NiU6KMWAhBYVqA4gNhTCSWYR7gmA+gRgJGQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,710,1330905600"; d="scan'208,217";a="383094407" Received: from host-92-30-117-51.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.30.117.51]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 03 Jun 2012 20:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: <008901cd41c0$e9ed6d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4FCB225B.7020209@legal-medicine.de> <000b01cd416c$9bef0a20$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <00d501cd4198$727929b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4FCB93EC.3030907@psk31.plus.com> <270B05A58E9F46F4AD21EFF298F32DE6@Shack> <003801cd41aa$bee050f0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:40:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: It depends on your sense of humour. What you might consider rude or offensive other might not Bad language or slanderous remarks aimed at a persons are a different story. Off topic might have some relevence to the overall discussion and you suggest suspended membership. You seem to be the only one on here thinking along these lines. No one else seems concerned. If I remark that 500 Khz is quiet at present but at the same time indicate that 6 metres is buzzing does that constitute off topic with an automatic suspension or ban. and people are NOT perfectly happy on Yahoo as you say in your last paragraph. Have you missed what has been going on regarding the yahoo reflector from others around the world. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.241 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA 0.0 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 719233b489c0727505743c30ad56ff81 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01CD41C0.BEA89D20" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1484fcbbe3b5543 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CD41C0.BEA89D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It depends on your sense of humour. What you might consider rude or = offensive other might not Bad language or slanderous remarks aimed at a persons are a different = story. Off topic might have some relevence to the overall discussion and you = suggest suspended membership. You seem to be the only one on here = thinking along these lines. No one else seems concerned. If I remark that 500 Khz is quiet at present but at the same time = indicate that 6 metres is buzzing does that constitute off topic with an = automatic suspension or ban. and people are NOT perfectly happy on Yahoo as you say in your last = paragraph. Have you missed what has been going on regarding the yahoo = reflector from others around the world. =20 g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 7:16 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status Mal (et al), Please read my most recent posts on the Yahoo group for my views on = moderation.=20 It is unusual to ban anyone but where a member has been grossly = offensive, repeatedly rude and hurtful to others, or consistently = off-topic then the moderators have the right (duty even) to delete such = posts or even suspend membership. I repeat this is highly unlikely if = people are respectful of others and post on-topic without getting = personal and offensive.=20 Now, let's please get back to LF matters and on the Yahoo group where = most seem perfectly happy.=20 73s Roger G3XBM -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- On 3 Jun 2012, at 18:03, "mal hamilton" wrote: How about an apology Eddie and a confirmation from G3XBM G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tony=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:56 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status Umm, sorry Eddie ;-) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:51 PM Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: Reflector status On 03/06/2012 15:52, mal hamilton wrote:=20 Well John When you get G3XBM in a email/posting some time back = indicating that a move to Yahoo would enable more control to ban persons = like me whose opinions and point of view differ from his, this is = hardly encouraging or democratic. A sysop is necessary to ensure smooth operation of any = organised group but not CENSORSHIP or BANNING. Come on Mal I am sure Roger can stick up for himself but please don't resort = to lies. Eddie ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CD41C0.BEA89D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It depends on your sense of humour. What you = might=20 consider rude or offensive other might not
Bad language or slanderous remarks aimed at a=20 persons are a different story.
Off topic might have some relevence to the = overall=20 discussion and you suggest suspended membership. You seem to be the only = one on=20 here thinking along these lines. No one else seems = concerned.
If I remark that 500 Khz is quiet at present but = at the=20 same time indicate that 6 metres is buzzing does that constitute off = topic with=20 an automatic suspension or ban.
and people are NOT perfectly happy on = Yahoo as you=20 say in your last paragraph. Have you missed what has been going on = regarding the=20 yahoo reflector from others around the world.
 
g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger=20 Lapthorn
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 = 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: O.T.: = Reflector=20 status

Mal (et al),

Please read my most recent posts on the Yahoo group for my views = on=20 moderation. 

It is unusual to ban anyone but where a member has been grossly=20 offensive, repeatedly rude and hurtful to others, or consistently = off-topic=20 then the moderators have the right (duty even) to delete such posts or = even=20 suspend membership. I repeat this is highly unlikely if people are = respectful=20 of others and post on-topic without getting personal and=20 offensive. 

Now, let's please get back to LF matters and on the Yahoo group = where=20 most seem perfectly happy. 

73s
Roger G3XBM



-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 3 Jun 2012, at 18:03, "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=20 wrote:

How about an apology Eddie and a = confirmation from=20 G3XBM
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Tony
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 = 4:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: = O.T.:=20 Reflector status

Umm, sorry Eddie ;-)
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, = 2012 9:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: An = "LF-reflector" Yahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE
 
<snip>
Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. =
<snip>
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 g3zjo
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, June 03, = 2012 4:42=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: = O.T.:=20 Reflector status

On 03/06/2012 15:52, mal hamilton wrote:=20
Well John
When you get G3XBM in a email/posting = some time=20 back indicating that a move to Yahoo would enable more control = to ban=20 persons like me whose opinions and point of view differ from = his,=20  this is hardly encouraging or democratic.
A sysop is necessary to ensure smooth = operation=20 of any organised group but not CENSORSHIP or=20 BANNING.

Come on Mal

I am sure Roger can stick up for himself = but=20 please don't resort to lies.

Eddie
 
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