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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Tracy es Co The only safe mode on this band is attended CW and possibly QSO MODE Opera so that one can take evasive action immediately to avoid causing QRM to the commercial Beacons when propagation changes take place, like wise to avoid Beacons causing the radio amateur QRM. Prolonged Unattended Beacons in any mode generated by radio amateurs should be a non starter also QRSS at extremely slow speeds should be avoided. These commercial Beacons take up more spectrum that you think because they are often tone modulated (MCW) g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.241 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA 0.0 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 17acae084404f211678801ec6cbf7d97 Subject: LF: Fw: [rsgb_lf_group] Band Planning for 472 Khz Band ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4B04.05EC7F70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:464614528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 8 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40c94fdb486a138c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4B04.05EC7F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tracy es Co The only safe mode on this band is attended CW and possibly QSO MODE = Opera so that one can take evasive action immediately to avoid causing = QRM to the commercial Beacons when propagation changes take place, like = wise to avoid Beacons causing the radio amateur QRM.=20 Prolonged Unattended Beacons in any mode generated by radio amateurs = should be a non starter also QRSS at extremely slow speeds should be = avoided. These commercial Beacons take up more spectrum that you think because = they are often tone modulated (MCW) g3kev =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracey Gardner=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Band Planning for 472 Khz Band ? =20 Twenty-seven NDBs have been logged in Europe between 472-479kHz. Twelve of those have been logged from the UK. The NDB database on the Classaxe web site would provide detailed = information on frequencies which should be avoided. It should be borne in mind that the NDBs use A2 mode with a mix of = approx 400Hz and 1020Hz modulation, so there are a good number of = specific slots to be wary of. http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/ Perhaps some consideration should be given to setting up some form of = guard bands/frequencies in order to avoid any problems with NDBs? 73s Tracey G5VU __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a new = topic=20 Messages in this topic (7)=20 Recent Activity: a.. New Members 4=20 Visit Your Group=20 Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. =20 __,_._,___ ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD4B04.05EC7F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The only safe mode on this band is attended = CW and=20 possibly QSO MODE Opera so that one can take evasive action immediately = to avoid=20 causing QRM to the commercial Beacons when propagation changes take = place,=20  like wise to avoid Beacons causing the radio amateur QRM. =
Prolonged Unattended Beacons in any mode = generated by=20 radio amateurs should be a non starter also QRSS at extremely slow = speeds=20 should be avoided.
These commercial Beacons take up more spectrum = that you=20 think because they are often tone modulated (MCW)
g3kev
 
 
 
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Twenty-seven NDBs have been logged in Europe between = 472-479kHz.
Twelve of those have been logged from the UK.
The NDB database on the Classaxe web site would provide = detailed=20 information on frequencies which should be avoided.
It should be borne in mind that the NDBs use A2 mode with a = mix of=20 approx 400Hz and 1020Hz modulation, so there are a good number of = specific slots=20 to be wary of.
 
 http://www.classaxe.com/dx/n= db/reu/
 
Perhaps some consideration should be given to setting up some form = of guard=20 bands/frequencies in order to avoid any problems with NDBs?
 
73s Tracey G5VU

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