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(VPS 120531-1, 31/05/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan in the early (Marconi) days the were two parts to the radiation inducing section of the wireless communication system.......one was a wire connected to earth, the other was an elevated or aerial ( literally "in the air" ) wire. These rapidly became the "Earth" and the "Aerial" the latter whether it was a wire or not. The term antennae comes from the "touchy feely" thing insects have protruding from their heads. In the UK antenna and antennas (yes that is the correct plural!) only became to be used by techs who had come into contact with US radar techs though the term filtered over in QST before 1940. We still errect "TV aerials" in the UK, and that includes the dishes!.We love having multiple words for the same thing or nearly the same thing, and we gleefully "steal" other people's words and incorporate them into our language. We delight in the absurdity of terms like "underground aerials" but we know what it means! 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:426802528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m012.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41174fc7da525d6d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan in the early (Marconi) days the were two parts to the radiation inducing section of the wireless communication system.......one was a wire connected to earth, the other was an elevated or aerial ( literally "in the air" ) wire. These rapidly became the "Earth" and the "Aerial" the latter whether it was a wire or not. The term antennae comes from the "touchy feely" thing insects have protruding from their heads. In the UK antenna and antennas (yes that is the correct plural!) only became to be used by techs who had come into contact with US radar techs though the term filtered over in QST before 1940. We still errect "TV aerials" in the UK, and that includes the dishes!.We love having multiple words for the same thing or nearly the same thing, and we gleefully "steal" other people's words and incorporate them into our language. We delight in the absurdity of terms like "underground aerials" but we know what it means! Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:00 PM Subject: LF: Ae! > Hmm, maybe someone from the UK can explain the difference between aerial > and antenna? Is there a difference? > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >