Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6BAB838000098; Thu, 24 May 2012 09:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SXYKB-0003oI-VR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:31 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SXYKB-0003o9-Fg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:31 +0100 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SXYK8-0000HA-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:30 +0100 Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so5285628wib.10 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 06:43:27 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LiwOvqsPURsF4DBHTtsANP5DDO7rBknps+rBZZpyVw0=; b=kWI3D8k2le3LLzauDWTKp+x04sLmBSdXkPu1H2zzQaGTFYresWIN8Mzlr1RaS0dWbd 3N+EGSJg+0wF4PnR3w4Kf/8aiGufB/mZ/Txn81ZpQCbgg+CvL1VnTKGTtKBJrjtjjM2Z K5A2tU3y+Ot/5eDeYcBhN3TJ1KIRARG/elblY6QPlF5FxZtRmMnmOpHnFfh4esPqj73a kcumqr4Z+KHOSZzRq30fzTY1H5TxYLKxDQocvrds7Yz5inXDHBXILqZbejOuXFaUUZuu ZUDW+mDs33rXGoNNvLSGRXmtLRRRoskIHMDAo2vs7cJcVlDoH5AHmFkf0se/72OS158I kaNg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.105 with SMTP id a9mr35351034wix.14.1337809885602; Wed, 23 May 2012 14:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.133 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2012 14:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 22:51:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Alan Melia , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= , Markus Vester , James Moritz X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest that the LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group? In over 10 years I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems with any group to which I belong or moderate. 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In over 10 years I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems with any group to which I belong or moderate. Instead they have had these advantages: 1. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered in-boxes) 2. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before messages are received. 3. All messages are archived and searchable. 4. Large files can be stored. 5. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth. 6. Links can be stored/shared 7. Videos can be stored. 8. Polls can be run. 9. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators to speed up the process) 10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. 11. Spam messages can be filtered 12. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc) The advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand why the change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is surely time. To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whatever) would take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested members here would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, who owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground rules/FAQs. Please, think about it again. 73s Roger G3XBM -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ --f46d0438904902241604c0bb2323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest that the LF-ref= lector migrates to a Yahoo group?

In over 10 years I have rarely had= delays in messages, outages, or problems with any group to which I belong = or moderate.

Instead they have had these advantages:
  1. Messages can be read= on the web if preferred (saves cluttered in-boxes)
  2. There is ra= rely a delay of more than a few minutes before messages are received.
  3. All messages are archived and searchable.
  4. Large files can b= e stored.
  5. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth.
  6. Links can b= e stored/shared
  7. Videos can be stored.
  8. Polls can be run.
  9. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators to speed= up the process)
  10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional cir= cumstances.
  11. Spam messages can be filtered
  12. Calendars can= be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc)
The advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand w= hy the change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is = surely time.

To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector&q= uot; (or whatever) would take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all i= nterested members here would take about a day at most. All you need is to a= gree a group name, who owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group= ground rules/FAQs.

Please, think about it again.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/

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