Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 425BB3800008A; Sun, 6 May 2012 05:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SQy5u-0003gb-Vw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:49:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SQy5u-0003gS-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:49:34 +0100 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SQy5s-0000La-HY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:49:33 +0100 Received: by obfk16 with SMTP id k16so14001820obf.16 for ; Sun, 06 May 2012 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=flqKEGIKU2zFecPo0DEs9j/Y2fE9tTCazxq1ZP4hUiA=; b=kuCxV/qpcG2Itgy6qYjtpq40f7QfSXy/fsyJuxy4aLyCAvcGZNhht9iHGGTkjciIoJ BbcFfBo/HFkbnA2J9/9hu1gm8IsWoo6CR2fIIENwU5gDdVOVp29z1zpR0lXaxU+By0cc tAodUTlSx1gNc862qZUnBenS87a81csRTd4wTqcn6kre5R3M6GBW0iT7rn1cdjubUweU 5l2wRMYPmKYX6kiRnCe2v7baLwat8Wntzedct+gApnGuMeOmMF0pqiQvaoH72NPNmpzP E0e7MLPSNADMFzVHhM+HNyS2MxaFAsoBfh29AeLXyqtiMZy0rlTRf0Im5Q5+5MEAVJt9 /4UA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.135.4 with SMTP id po4mr6255793igb.60.1336297768076; Sun, 06 May 2012 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.60.144 with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2012 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <790qeFJGm8768S03.1336296792@web03.cms.usa.net> References: <790qeFJGm8768S03.1336296792@web03.cms.usa.net> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 10:49:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I was going to say this too. However, there is a fair bit of hidden DOS emulation built into Windows. I can only speak for XP and earlier, Not Vista or 7,but quite a lot of the old pure DOS commands still work from a command prompt. Try things like redirection, sorting and the like. You may be surprised to find then still functioning. 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However, there is a fair bit of hidden DOS emulation built into Windows. I can only speak for XP and earlier, Not Vista or 7,but quite a lot of the old pure DOS commands still work from a command prompt. Try things like redirection, sorting and the like. You may be surprised to find then still functioning. What is even more amazing, is that some of the old BIOS Interrupt calls that you had to do when programming (true) DOS machines still, sort of, vaguely, work. I wrote a lot of software pre-windows that uses the mouse by directly settign 96x86 registers and calling the appropriate BIOS interrupts. SOme of this software, on some PCs still works. Its got no right to, but means the Windows OS developers have tried to make things backwards compatible. Mind you, on one Dell desktop machine my old software does cause a catastropic crash that needs a power off to stop the lockup. Even ctl-alt-del doesn't work Yet on others it works fine or just ignores the mouse.but still responds to cursor keys. Definitely a hardware thing, video driver no doubt. And my old favourite programming language (for non graphics based stuff, at least) , 16 bit PowerBasic runs absolutely perfectly in a Command Window. That prog most definitely is DOS based, so the Windows emulator is doing an excellent job there. PowerBasic doesn't call on the mouse at all. So blaming Windows for all ills isn't all that fair. Individual PC manufacturers are also to blame by keeping costs down with odd and non standard add-ons. Andy G4JNT > You must be a Linux fan.... =A0 :-) =A0 Knowing almost nothing about Wind= ows.... > > The last version of Windows that was Dos based was Windows 95-98 > Starting from Win NT,XP, etc. there is no more an underlying Dos layer... > > And Windows 7 is even better. I have on my PC a triple boot, Win XP Pro, > 64-bit Windows 7, and a special version of Debian Linux (Sidux). > Each time I boot Linux I can observe, on the very same hardware, how much > sluggish is its responsivness in the GUI, with respect to Win 7.... >