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Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Alan Melia ; Stefan Schäfer ; Markus Vester ; James Moritz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:51 PM Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.95 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 2b323379b582abbe78ea971e119c2a1c Subject: LF: Re: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD39C1.5731B840" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:493794912:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d023.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61854fbe44e17a2d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD39C1.5731B840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No thank you Roger. Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; Alan Melia ; Stefan Sch=E4fer ; = Markus Vester ; James Moritz=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:51 PM Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again suggest that the = LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group? In over 10 years I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or = problems with any group to which I belong or moderate. Instead they have had these advantages: 1.. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered = in-boxes) 2.. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before = messages are received.=20 3.. All messages are archived and searchable. 4.. Large files can be stored. 5.. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth. 6.. Links can be stored/shared 7.. Videos can be stored. 8.. Polls can be run.=20 9.. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators = to speed up the process) 10.. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances. 11.. Spam messages can be filtered 12.. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc)=20 The advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand = why the change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is = surely time. To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whatever) would = take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested members here = would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, = who owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground = rules/FAQs. Please, think about it again.=20 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CD39C1.5731B840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No thank you Roger.
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger=20 Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ;=20 Alan Melia ; Stefan Sch=E4fer ; = Markus=20 Vester ; James Moritz
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 = 10:51=20 PM
Subject: LF: An "LF-reflector" = Yahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE

With the latest outage (5 days already) may I again = suggest=20 that the LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group?

In over 10 = years I=20 have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems with any = group to=20 which I belong or moderate.

Instead they have had these = advantages:
  1. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered=20 in-boxes)
  2. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes before = messages are=20 received.=20
  3. All messages are archived and searchable.
  4. Large files can be stored.
  5. Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth.
  6. Links can be stored/shared
  7. Videos can be stored.
  8. Polls can be run.=20
  9. Messages can be vetted if preferred (by a number of moderators = to speed=20 up the process)
  10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional circumstances.
  11. Spam messages can be filtered
  12. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tests etc) =
The=20 advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply cannot understand why = the=20 change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this week it is surely = time.

To set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or = whatever)=20 would take about 30 seconds and migration to it by all interested = members here=20 would take about a day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, = who=20 owns it, who can moderate posts and some basic group ground=20 rules/FAQs.

Please, think about it again.

73s
Roger = G3XBM
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http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
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