Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 30F5E38000097; Sun, 6 May 2012 04:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SQx7X-0003A9-So for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 09:47:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SQx7X-0003A0-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 09:47:11 +0100 Received: from filter02.i-online.fr ([195.200.78.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SQx7V-00009B-Mz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 09:47:10 +0100 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by filter02.i-online.fr (IceWarp 10.2.2) with ESMTP (SSL) id QNA40955 for ; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:46:55 +0200 Received: (qmail 21172 invoked by uid 507); 6 May 2012 10:47:05 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 6 May 2012 10:47:05 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: John Rabson In-Reply-To: <4FA62CF4.2030706@talktalk.net> Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 10:47:07 +0200 Message-Id: <87B7CF6E-97DC-4C10-B623-821B08484893@numeo.fr> References: <1336252745.5751.2.camel@g4gvw-high-grade> <4FA5AFBC.9060605@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4FA62CF4.2030706@talktalk.net> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eddie, > Why in the 21stC are we using an O/S based on DOS. In the commercial environment, for backward compatibility with a vast installed user base. On the software side, I have met this sort of thing with commercial COBOL and FORTRAN-based products. It often cheaper overall (at the time) to continue maintaining such software rather than change to something radically different. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 4e3b1488273adbbe9757d6bdd5adf219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Why stay with DOS? (was Re: LF: Open Sauce) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:337751072:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40554fa63ad65ecd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Eddie, > Why in the 21stC are we using an O/S based on DOS. In the commercial environment, for backward compatibility with a vast = installed user base. On the software side, I have met this sort of = thing with commercial COBOL and FORTRAN-based products. It often cheaper = overall (at the time) to continue maintaining such software rather than = change to something radically different. If one wishes to replace (or re-implement) the underlying OS it may be = necessary to throw away an awful lot of application code that perhaps is = tied more intimately than one would wish into the underlying system. = The cost of such a re-implementation, although it might be worth it in = the long run, does not go down well with the accountants, amongst other = people. The same applies with user interfaces. I have just installed a Windows 7 = system for a client whose XP system hard disk had gone seriously = belly-up. Yes, we did have a full backup but some of the products she = was used to (Outlook Express and Cardfile for example) are no longer = supplied and will not necessarily run correctly, if at all, on the new = system. I enquired about getting a second hand XP box but it emerged = that this would cost perhaps twice as much as the new system. It was = therefore necessary to bite the bullet and do some client re-training. = This is not always easy. Needless to say, the client did not have an XP distribution disc set. John F5VLF PS Regarding on-off switches, I have encountered system boxes whose = on-off switch is a software one. To perform a proper power off it is = necessary to unplug the box from the mains supply.=