Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4013E3800004B; Fri, 25 May 2012 11:18:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SXwGU-00058A-Pu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:17:18 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SXwGU-00057z-E7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:17:18 +0100 Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.4]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SXwGS-0006Ns-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:17:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.14] ([71.197.41.115]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id EFHA1j00B2V4zFK01FHAuz; Fri, 25 May 2012 08:17:11 -0700 Message-ID: <4FBFA270.6060404@hifidelity.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:17:04 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4FBE62F1.9020203@psk31.plus.com> <4FBE6D2A.6000907@usa.net> <006b01cd39e2$0b66efe0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Greetings, The constituency, expertise and variety on this group is magnificent and we mess with this at our peril. The benefits of a Yahoo group over the venerable Blacksheep are plain. That's _A_ Yahoo group. Everybody's perfectly capable of weeding out things which are irrelevant to them; we don't need anything other than a more modern vehicle. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.202.165.4 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 5c335215f1b3de26d890ee84d49616ce Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:383314528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b4fbfa2b26b08 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Greetings, The constituency, expertise and variety on this group is magnificent and we mess with this at our peril. The benefits of a Yahoo group over the venerable Blacksheep are plain. That's _A_ Yahoo group. Everybody's perfectly capable of weeding out things which are irrelevant to them; we don't need anything other than a more modern vehicle. It's likely wisest that the group move en-masse, altogether, at once, to A newly established group steadfastly resisting the siren call of "Ooh! A group for This! A group for That!". Leave nothing here but a daily "we've moved..." notice for a while, even disabling the reflector itself. Generally I cringe whenever "Yay! A New Group!" comes up anywhere - it's usually ego-driven and achieves little other than worthwhile content being splintered, orphaned and ultimately lost. The biggest and saddest effect, though, is on the critical mass and flavour of the original group. What gives me hope here is that no-one seems to be fighting for 'control' ("Come to MY group!") and that those most upset by the idea are missing the point or fear non-existent bogeymen. Have at it! 73 Steve W3EEE