Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 730E5380000A7; Tue, 15 May 2012 14:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SUMe7-0003eF-Gr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2012 19:38:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SUMe7-0003e6-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2012 19:38:55 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SUMe4-0004LW-Ca for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 May 2012 19:38:53 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q4FIcpDD027259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 May 2012 20:38:51 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q4FIcnwY018678; Tue, 15 May 2012 20:38:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4FB2A274.3060506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:37:40 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: "YV7MAE Maritn A. Echazarreta D." References: <4FB1A35D.2030909@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <002d01cd3287$5ca651f0$4001a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002d01cd3287$5ca651f0$4001a8c0@lark> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id q4FIcpDD027259 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Alan, Am 15.05.2012 12:41, schrieb Alan Melia: > Well done Stefan and Martin. Tnx! > I guess Stefan that the path is 4 hops and at > least 3 are probably over water. It may not be that much better in winter. > We will see. I'm looking forward to observe that path over a longer time now. We know, it's not only propagation but also the absence of QRN what is needed. May be an interesting combination there, so close to the equator.. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 1908b49407fc556987226b536cc4bad0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC in South America Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:297263424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d94fb2a2f9793a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Alan, Am 15.05.2012 12:41, schrieb Alan Melia: > Well done Stefan and Martin. Tnx! > I guess Stefan that the path is 4 hops and at > least 3 are probably over water. It may not be that much better in wint= er. > =20 We will see. I'm looking forward to observe that path over a longer time=20 now. We know, it's not only propagation but also the absence of QRN what=20 is needed. May be an interesting combination there, so close to the=20 equator.. > You want stable conditions for that speed QRSS. > =20 Yes. If a loop is used (even if it's a normal loop) i think we can get=20 another 6 dB without problems, just after Martin's sunset. The the loop=20 cancels or reduces the signals from NW and SE and the backside is still=20 quiet, because in daylight.. Then, with these 6 dB improvement, we can=20 go to QRSS-60, so the QSB is not that critical... 73, Stefan/DK7FC > Best Wishes > Alan > G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > To:; "YV7MAE Maritn A. Echazarreta D." > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:29 AM > Subject: LF: DK7FC in South America > > > =20 >> LF! >> >> I just wrote to Martin/YV7MAE: >> >> /May, the 15th 2012! 00:12 UTC. YV7MAE received first traces of DK7FC = on >> 136.172 kHz in DFCW-180. Excellent reception of DCF39 too and low QRN/= M, >> after several antenna system improvements! >> This is a first detection of a German amateur radio signal in South >> =20 > America! > =20 >> Congratulations! >> / >> I can see it live via the remote link, the grabber is still not update= d >> (each 10 minutes). >> >> After another change in the antenna wire location (higher, longer..., = i >> can't stop him to improve each day), DCF39 showed up about 30 dB S/N i= n >> 1 Hz NBW (without noise reduction). I started the TX immediately. Afte= r >> a few minutes i saw my K just 0.1 Hz below 136.172 kHz, as Markus >> mentioned in the recent days. >> >> It is still the long wire, about 80m, matched with a resonant circuit = on >> a ferrite rod which Martin is using. If this path works in the middle = of >> May, what will it look like in winther? And what when a directional >> antenna is used? >> >> I still can't belive it! >> >> The capture is now on the grabber and will be saved in the archive sit= e >> which a added today. >> >> My God, now the 7 is coming in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is worth _*ALL*_ th= e >> effort, by far!!!! >> >> The path is 7818 km distant, >> http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFK81BD&from=3Djn49ik00wd >> >> >> Take a look: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74746618/LF/YV7MAE_LF_Grabber.htm= l >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> =20 > =20