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Content preview: Of course, there already is a yahoo group for 136 Band users , open to all to Join in : ) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/O_P_E_R_A_/ From: Stefan Schäfer Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:03 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE NOT [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 7117f452ff11af9bac782a916713f0d7 Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE NOT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD39FE.612AE550" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:506789024:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40564fbeab7a5207 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD39FE.612AE550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course, there already is a yahoo group for 136 Band users , = open to all to Join in : ) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/O_P_E_R_A_/ From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:03 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE NOT I vote for a active LF band! Amateur radio on 137 kHz! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 24.05.2012 21:55, schrieb Clemens Paul:=20 >Do what you like but leave me OUT >G3KEV I vote for yahoo.) 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!!!!!! and if you have an = opinion that differs from others you should be BANNED. No discussion, no debate in other words a DICTORSHIP, hardly = democratic. What next ??????????? I can manage without any of it and get on with amateur radio and = experimentation. These past few days without the reflector has not = hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by = others !! Do what you like but leave me OUT G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alberto di Bene=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20 Why not go for it and start it yourself. We know some will not move so it will be an additional facility. = Please make sure it is has no taboo, f frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no childish = sulking. Another suggestion is to not make it an open group, meaning that = each request for membership should be accompanied by a very short introductory message explaining why = that membership is requested. Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether to accept = it or not. I suppose the same is done presently with the Majordomo mailer. And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up to a = point... then the moderator can accept the individual, but putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message = from him must be examined by the moderator(s) before being published. The moderation status can be removed = after a couple of legitimate messages from the guy, showing that he is not a troll or spammer. I use this method on my soft_radio Yahoo group =20 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/ with more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just = a couple of cases where a spam message=20 got through in more than 8 years of the existence of that group. 73 Alberto I2PHD E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virendatenbank: 2425/5019 - Ausgabedatum: = 24.05.2012=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD39FE.612AE550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Of course, there  already  is a  yahoo  = group =20 for  136 Band  users , open to all  to  Join = in  :=20 )
 
http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/O_P_E_R_A_/
 
 

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:03 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead = .....PLEASE=20 NOT

I vote for a active LF band!
Amateur radio on = 137=20 kHz!

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 24.05.2012 21:55, schrieb = Clemens=20 Paul:=20
>Do what you like but leave me = OUT
>G3KEV
 
I vote for yahoo.)
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
 
 
-----=20 Original Message ----- From:=20 mal hamilton To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent:=20 Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:17 PM Subject:=20 Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE

A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor = !!!!!!!!!! and=20 if you have an opinion that differs from others you should be=20 BANNED.
No discussion, no debate in other words a = DICTORSHIP,=20 hardly democratic.
What next ???????????
I can manage without any of it and get on = with amateur=20 radio and experimentation. These past few days without the reflector = has not=20 hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted = by=20 others !!
Do what you like but leave me = OUT
G3KEV
 
-----=20 Original Message ----- From:=20 Alberto di Bene To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent:=20 Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject:=20 Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE

On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20
Why=20 not go for it and start it yourself.
We know some will not = move so it=20 will be an additional facility. Please make sure it is has no = taboo,=20 f
frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no = childish=20 sulking.
Another suggestion is to not make it an = open=20 group, meaning that each request for membership should = be
accompanied=20 by a very short introductory message explaining why that = membership is=20 requested.
Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide = whether to=20 accept it or not.  I suppose the same is done
presently = with the=20 Majordomo mailer.

And, if that introductory message is = convincing,=20 but up to a point... then the moderator can accept the = individual,
but=20 putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message from = him must=20 be examined by the moderator(s)
before being published.  = The=20 moderation status can be removed after a couple of legitimate = messages=20 from the guy,
showing that he is not a troll or = spammer.

I use=20 this method on my soft_radio  Yahoo group  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/with=20 more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a = couple of=20 cases where a spam message
got through in more than 8 years of = the=20 existence of that group.

73  Alberto =20 I2PHD

E-Mail ist = virenfrei.
Von AVG=20 =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de
Version: 2012.0.2176 /=20 Virendatenbank: 2425/5019 - Ausgabedatum: 24.05.2012=20

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