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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I agreed Mal, who vets the vettors? I have just erased a hugh rant on the subject you will be relieved to hear! 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012, 13:08 Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.213 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 860e51ceecdf98b32e8eba101d9d472d Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="435439028-948591431-1337957703=:70711" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:493319520:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d261.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d618a4fbf9d805960 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --435439028-948591431-1337957703=:70711 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agreed Mal, who vets the vettors?=0A=A0=0AI have just erased a hugh rant = on the subject you will be relieved to hear!=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91U= X=0A=A0 =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Roger Lapthorn =0ATo: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =A0=0ASent: Friday, 25 May 2012, 13:08=0ASubject: Re: LF: An = "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE=0A =0A=0AChris (AYT),=0A=0A= Yahoo group moderation is totally optional but there are (albeit rare) situ= ations when totally inappropriate postings need this. Nothing wrong with he= althy on-topic discussion but there have been examples on this list of, fra= nkly, very nasty and hurtful comments which would better have been removed.= =A0=0A=0AI shall say nothing further about this (for now) but like Pete (FM= T) believe all the collected wisdom here would be better stored and shared = in a Yahoo group. It is far more likely to encourage newcomers if the circu= its, links, photos and history was more easily available.=A0=0A=0AWhat IS t= he big objection to this?=A0=0A=0A73s=0ARoger G3XBM=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- Via= my 2.4GHz transceiver --=0A=0AOn 25 May 2012, at 12:09, "Chris" wrote:=0A=0A=0A =0A>Yes, I agree with you Mal, and that's= why I sent =0Athe 'no thanks' message after Roger outlined the "advantages= "....and it's got =0Aeven worse now someone has suggested vetting group mem= bers! =0A>Chris, G4AYT. =0A>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>From: mal h= amilton =0A>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>Sent: Thursday, May 24= , 2012 8:17 =0APM =0A>>Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group inst= ead .....PLEASE =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!= !!!!! and if you have an opinion that differs from others you should be = =0ABANNED. =0A>>No discussion, no debate in other words a DICTORSHIP, hard= ly democratic. =0A>>What next ??????????? =0A>>I can manage without any of = it and get on with amateur radio and experimentation. These past few days = without the reflector has not hindered my amateur radio activities and I d= o not need to be vetted by others !! =0A>>Do what you like but leave me OU= T =0A>>G3KEV =0A>>=0A>>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>>From: Alberto di= Bene =0A>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>Sent: Thursday, May 24= , 2012 5:17 PM =0A>>>Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group inste= ad .....PLEASE =0A>>>=0A>>>On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote: =0A>>>Why no= t go for it and start it yourself.=0A>>>>We know some will not move so it = =0A will be an additional facility. Please make sure it is has no tabo= o, =0A f=0A>>>>frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no= childish =0A sulking.Another suggestion is to not make it an open gro= up, meaning that each request for membership should be=0A>>>accompanied by= a very =0A short introductory message explaining why that membership is= =0A requested.=0A>>>Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whet= her to =0A accept it or not.=A0 I suppose the same is done=0A>>>presentl= y with the =0A Majordomo mailer.=0A>>>=0A>>>And, if that introductory me= ssage is convincing, =0A but up to a point... then the moderator can acc= ept the individual,=0A>>>but =0A putting him in moderation status, meani= ng that every message from him must =0A be examined by the moderator(s)= =0A>>>before being published.=A0 The =0A moderation status can be remove= d after a couple of legitimate messages from =0A the guy,=0A>>>showing t= hat he is not a troll or spammer.=0A>>>=0A>>>I use this =0A method on my= soft_radio=A0 Yahoo group=A0=A0 =0A>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_r= adio/=0A>>>with =0A more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I= had just a couple of =0A cases where a spam message =0A>>>got through i= n more than 8 years of the =0A existence of that group.=0A>>>=0A>>>73=A0= Alberto=A0 =0A I2PHD=0A>>>=0A>>> --435439028-948591431-1337957703=:70711 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agreed Mal, who vet= s the vettors?
 
I have = just erased a hugh rant on the subject you will be relieved to hear!=
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
 
From: Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> 
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012, 13:08
Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo= group instead .....PLEASE

=
Chris (AYT),

Yahoo group moderation is t= otally optional but there are (albeit rare) situations when totally inappro= priate postings need this. Nothing wrong with healthy on-topic discussion b= ut there have been examples on this list of, frankly, very nasty and hurtfu= l comments which would better have been removed. 

=
I shall say nothing further about this (for now) but like Pete (FMT) b= elieve all the collected wisdom here would be better stored and shared in a= Yahoo group. It is far more likely to encourage newcomers if the circuits,= links, photos and history was more easily available. 

What IS the big objection to thi= s? 

73s
Roger G3XBM

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-- Via my 2.4GHz transceive= r --

On 25 May 2012, at 12:09, "Chris" <c.ashby435@btinternet.com> wrote:
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