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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi All  I have suggested a Yahoo group for the LF reflector in the past. There is the UK500kHz Google group of course which works well but much under used. It is unfortunate that the Blacksheep set up has not taken advantage of the File store facility that Yahoo and Google have. There must be tons of good info circuits calculations and design and operating ideas that have been discussed that is now only held in "Private" data bases. Had this reflector migrated to one of the above facilities years ago just think of the wealth of knowledge that would have been compiled and stored for new comers to trawl. I used the SDR Softrock yahoo group and there you can find all the circuits pc layouts design ideas and new thoughts on SDR that date back over 7 or 8 years of SDR development. I just feel this reflector with its major contributers to the art of MF/LFVLF operation has lost over the years major major contributions that would be useful to those who are new to this part of the radio spectrum and to those of us like me who are slow learners to catch up. Fragmented web sites don't have the critical mass of a discussion group with a filing and search facility.  This reflector is IMHO the only real "Watering Hole" for the LF Art and deserves a better home.  Thats my ten cents (sorry pence) worth; written in the spirit of trying to be constructive.  [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.77 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: f6bad70c4aa77b0bf5528aff34072d8d Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1507048413-1880770327-1337935345=:2534" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:497630464:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m229.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600e4fbf463e4332 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --1507048413-1880770327-1337935345=:2534 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All=0A=C2=A0=0AI have suggested a Yahoo group for the LF reflector in th= e past. There is the UK500kHz Google group of course which works well but m= uch under used. It is unfortunate that the Blacksheep set up has not taken = advantage of the=C2=A0File store facility that Yahoo and Google have. There= must be tons of good info circuits calculations and design and operating i= deas that have been discussed that is now only held in "Private" data bases= . Had this reflector migrated to one of the above facilities years ago just= think of the wealth of knowledge that would have been compiled and stored = for new comers to trawl. I used the SDR Softrock yahoo group and there you = can find all the circuits pc layouts design ideas and new thoughts on SDR t= hat date back over 7 or 8=C2=A0years of SDR development. I just feel this r= eflector with its major contributers to the art of MF/LFVLF operation has l= ost over the years major major contributions that would be useful to those = who are new to this part of the radio spectrum and to those of us like me who are slow learner= s=C2=A0to catch up. Fragmented web sites don't have the critical mass of a = discussion group with a filing and search facility.=0A=C2=A0=0AThis reflect= or is IMHO the only real "Watering Hole" for the LF Art and deserves a bett= er home.=0A=C2=A0=0AThats my ten cents (sorry pence) worth; written in the = spirit of trying to be constructive.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A73 es GL Pet= e M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Hugh_M0WYE= =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Friday, 25= May 2012, 9:09=0ASubject: RE: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead ..= ...PLEASE=0A =0A=0A =0AHello Group, =0AI am another =E2=80=9Clurker=E2=80= =9D, but have=0Agreatly appreciated the LF reflector over the years. =0AI = also have a Yahoo account and follow=0Aother radio-related groups on there,= so I would be quite happy if the reflector=0Amoved onto Yahoo. =0A73 =0AHu= gh M0WYE =0A=C2=A0 =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner= -rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=0A[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]= On=0ABehalf Of g3zjo=0ASent: 24 May 2012 17:34=0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=0ASubject: Re: LF: An=0A"LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLE= ASE =0A=C2=A0 =0AHi Roger=0A=0AWhy not go for it and start it yourself.=0A= We know some will not move so it will be an additional facility. Please mak= e=0Asure it is has no taboo, frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rule= s, and=0Ano childish sulking.=0A=0AEddie=0A=0AOn 23/05/2012 22:51, Roger La= pthorn=0Awrote: =0AWith the latest outage (5 days already) may I again=0As= uggest that the LF-reflector migrates to a Yahoo group?=0A=0AIn over 10 yea= rs I have rarely had delays in messages, outages, or problems=0Awith any gr= oup to which I belong or moderate.=0A=0AInstead they have had these advanta= ges: =0A=091. Messages can be read on the web if preferred (saves cluttered= in-boxes) =0A=092. There is rarely a delay of more than a few minutes befo= re messages are received. =0A=093. All messages are archived and searchable= . =0A=094. Large files can be stored. =0A=095. Photos can be stored - 100Gi= gs worth. =0A=096. Links can be stored/shared =0A=097. Videos can be stored= . =0A=098. Polls can be run. =0A=099. Messages can be vetted if preferred (= by a number of moderators to speed up the process) =0A=0910. Difficult memb= ers can be banned in exceptional circumstances. =0A=0911. Spam messages can= be filtered =0A=0912. Calendars can be set up (for sked times, news of tes= ts etc) =0AThe advantages go ON and ON and, frankly, I simply=0Acannot und= erstand why the change hasn't made years ago. With the problems this=0Aweek= it is surely time.=0A=0ATo set up a new Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" = (or whatever) would=0Atake about 30 seconds and migration to it by all inte= rested members here would=0Atake about a day at most. All you need is to ag= ree a group name, who owns it,=0Awho can moderate posts and some basic grou= p ground rules/FAQs.=0A=0APlease, think about it again. =0A=0A73s=0ARoger G= 3XBM=0A=0A-- =0Ahttp://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/=0Ahttp://www.g3xbm.co.uk=0Ah= ttps://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/=0Ahttp://qss2.blogspot.com/=0A=0A=0A = =0ANo=0Avirus found in this message.=0AChecked by AVG - www.avg.com=0AVersi= on: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5019 - Release Date: 05/24/12 --1507048413-1880770327-1337935345=:2534 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
 
I have suggested a Yahoo group for t= he LF reflector in the past. There is the UK500kHz Google group of course w= hich works well but much under used. It is unfortunate that the Blacksheep = set up has not taken advantage of the File store facility that Yahoo a= nd Google have. There must be tons of good info circuits calculations and d= esign and operating ideas that have been discussed that is now only held in= "Private" data bases. Had this reflector migrated to one of the above faci= lities years ago just think of the wealth of knowledge that would have been= compiled and stored for new comers to trawl. I used the SDR Softrock yahoo= group and there you can find all the circuits pc layouts design ideas and = new thoughts on SDR that date back over 7 or 8 years of SDR development. I just feel this reflector with its major contributers to the= art of MF/LFVLF operation has lost over the years major major contribution= s that would be useful to those who are new to this part of the radio spect= rum and to those of us like me who are slow learners to catch up. Frag= mented web sites don't have the critical mass of a discussion group with a = filing and search facility.
 
= This reflector is IMHO the only real "Watering Hole" for the LF Art a= nd deserves a better home.
 
<= span>Thats my ten cents (sorry pence) worth; written in the spirit of tryin= g to be constructive.  

 
73 = es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: Hugh_M0WYE <m0wye@radiouk.com&g= t;
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org
Sent: F= riday, 25 May 2012, 9:09
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<= span style=3D"color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I am anoth= er =E2=80=9Clurker=E2=80=9D, but have=0Agreatly appreciated the LF reflecto= r over the years.
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I also have a Yahoo account an= d follow=0Aother radio-related groups on there, so I would be quite happy i= f the reflector=0Amoved onto Yahoo.
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73
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From:<= /font> ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=0A[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg] On=0ABehalf Of g3zjo=0ASent: 24 May 2012 17:= 34
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Hi Roger
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=0AWhy not go for it and st= art it yourself.
=0AWe know some will not move so it will be an addition= al facility. Please make=0Asure it is has no taboo, frequencies, modes, opi= nions, or subjects rules, and=0Ano childish sulking.
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=0AEddie
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=0AOn 23/05/2012 22:51, Roger Lapthorn=0Awrote:
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With the latest= outage (5 days already) may I again=0Asuggest that the LF-reflector migrat= es to a Yahoo group?
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=0AIn over 10 years I have rarely had delays= in messages, outages, or problems=0Awith any group to which I belong or mo= derate.
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=0AInstead they have had these advantages:<= /div> =0A=0A
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  1. Messages can be read on the web if preferred=0A (= saves cluttered in-boxes)
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  2. There is rarely a delay of more than a few=0A = minutes before messages are received.
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  3. All messages are archived and search= able.
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  4. Large files can be stored.
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  5. = Photos can be stored - 100Gigs worth.
    6. =0A
  6. Link= s can be stored/shared
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  7. Videos can be stored.
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  8. Polls can be run.
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  9. Messages c= an be vetted if preferred (by a number=0A of moderators to speed up the= process)
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  10. Difficult members can be banned in exceptional=0A circumstanc= es.
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  12. Calendars can be set up (for sked times,= news of=0A tests etc)
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The advantages go ON and ON and, fran= kly, I simply=0Acannot understand why the change hasn't made years ago. Wit= h the problems this=0Aweek it is surely time.
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=0ATo set up a new = Yahoo group called "LF-reflector" (or whatever) would=0Atake about 30 secon= ds and migration to it by all interested members here would=0Atake about a = day at most. All you need is to agree a group name, who owns it,=0Awho can = moderate posts and some basic group ground rules/FAQs.
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=0APlease,= think about it again.
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=0A73s
=0A Roger G3XBM
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