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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!!!!!! and if you have an opinion that differs from others you should be BANNED. No discussion, no debate in other words a DICTORSHIP, hardly democratic. What next ??????????? I can manage without any of it and get on with amateur radio and experimentation. These past few days without the reflector has not hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by others !! Do what you like but leave me OUT G3KEV [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.243 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA X-Scan-Signature: f45514038df04b1035abb1d5446da941 Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD39E1.E0BA8F40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:483678592:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54fbe89e6261a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD39E1.E0BA8F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!!!!!! and if you have an = opinion that differs from others you should be BANNED. No discussion, no debate in other words a DICTORSHIP, hardly democratic. What next ??????????? I can manage without any of it and get on with amateur radio and = experimentation. These past few days without the reflector has not = hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by = others !! Do what you like but leave me OUT G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alberto di Bene=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20 Why not go for it and start it yourself. We know some will not move so it will be an additional facility. = Please make sure it is has no taboo, f frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no childish = sulking. Another suggestion is to not make it an open group, meaning that each = request for membership should be accompanied by a very short introductory message explaining why that = membership is requested. Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether to accept it or = not. I suppose the same is done presently with the Majordomo mailer. And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up to a point... = then the moderator can accept the individual, but putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message from = him must be examined by the moderator(s) before being published. The moderation status can be removed after a = couple of legitimate messages from the guy, showing that he is not a troll or spammer. I use this method on my soft_radio Yahoo group =20 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/ with more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a = couple of cases where a spam message=20 got through in more than 8 years of the existence of that group. 73 Alberto I2PHD ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01CD39E1.E0BA8F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A moderator !!!!!!!!!!!!! or a censor !!!!!!!!!! = and if=20 you have an opinion that differs from others you should be = BANNED.
No discussion, no debate in other words a = DICTORSHIP,=20 hardly democratic.
What next ???????????
I can manage without any of it and get on with = amateur=20 radio and experimentation. These past few days without the reflector has = not=20 hindered my amateur radio activities and I do not need to be vetted by = others=20 !!
Do what you like but leave me OUT
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alberto di = Bene=20
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 = 5:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: An = "LF-reflector" Yahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE

On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20
Why not=20 go for it and start it yourself.
We know some will not move so it = will be=20 an additional facility. Please make sure it is has no taboo,=20 f
frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no = childish=20 sulking.
Another suggestion is to not make it an = open group,=20 meaning that each request for membership should be
accompanied by a = very=20 short introductory message explaining why that membership is=20 requested.
Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether = to accept=20 it or not.  I suppose the same is done
presently with the = Majordomo=20 mailer.

And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up = to a=20 point... then the moderator can accept the individual,
but putting = him in=20 moderation status, meaning that every message from him must be = examined by the=20 moderator(s)
before being published.  The moderation status = can be=20 removed after a couple of legitimate messages from the guy,
showing = that he=20 is not a troll or spammer.

I use this method on my = soft_radio =20 Yahoo group  
http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/soft_radio/
with=20 more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a couple = of=20 cases where a spam message
got through in more than 8 years of the = existence of that group.

73  Alberto =20 I2PHD

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