Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7E08038000093; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SGrNx-0005sd-21 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:38:25 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SGrNw-0005sU-JE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:38:24 +0100 Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.39]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SGrNu-0005pk-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:38:24 +0100 Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q38CcHL9024671 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:38:17 -0400 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbf0186.pool.mediaWays.net [77.191.1.134]) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id EFE00E0000E0 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2012 08:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <4F803F91.80007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1333806691.2036.3.camel@gerhard-desktop-acer> <4F813C2D.3010500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4F815F15.2070002@talktalk.net> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:37:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1333888697; bh=lOCWRx7jbMBtvK7XNkjQxjRNjwZQVuzONd2sQDLSet0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ekunDCtE7LZAd/kbIOBdUct7TzaJod8aqgB6rlnMKhZfDBdr6iNqcfAGzHsqIJNSw bF8A0DKgoBK89bg0kpvudEjoLO85Qq6yn7VE3wim1nlqaCeYNFOhnUpp1bEFsBk3nb 1n3vRLm7yOfjxND6IuQksD06GkZlhjH4Fn/MutHM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:421520576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: Local VLF tests... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD1595.28BD08C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468351008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m283.2 ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40814f81870e744f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD1595.28BD08C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eddie, Stefan, this looks interesting. Accounting for your grabber timescale being an = hour ahead of UT, your right dash is centered approximately at 6:30 UT. = This would indeed coincide with the first dash of the blue "7" on = Stefan's 6000-RDF on his second grabber.=20 However the frequency relative to the 8969.98 tick seem to be different = by about 4 pixels. Stefan apparently transmitted on 8969.9815, and your = dash is on 8969.9832 Hz. Assuming both were instances are samplerate = locked, this disproves a possible detection. Best 73 and happy Easter, Markus (DF6NM) From: qrss=20 Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 11:49 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: VLF: Local VLF tests... Stefan There is a common start / finish minute on the dots in the=20 att.capture.HH.m3 to the best of my measurement ability, they certainly=20 coincide with your TX periods. 73 Eddie G3ZJO Grabber:- http://g3zjo.bplaced.net/index.htm Also :- http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CD1595.28BD08C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eddie, Stefan,
 
this looks interesting. Accounting for = your grabber=20 timescale being an hour ahead of UT, your right dash is centered=20 approximately at 6:30 UT. This would indeed coincide with the first dash = of the=20 blue "7" on Stefan's 6000-RDF on his second grabber.
 
However the frequency relative to the = 8969.98=20 tick seem to be different by about 4 pixels. Stefan apparently=20 transmitted on 8969.9815, and your dash is on 8969.9832=20 Hz. Assuming both were instances are samplerate locked,=20 this disproves a possible detection.
 
Best 73 and happy = Easter,
 
Markus = (DF6NM)

From: qrss
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 11:49 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: VLF: Local VLF tests...

Stefan

There is a common start / finish minute on = the dots=20 in the
att.capture.HH.m3 to the best of my measurement ability, they = certainly
coincide with your TX periods.

73 Eddie=20 G3ZJO

Grabber:- http://g3zjo.bplaced.net/inde= x.htm

Also=20 :- http://www.g3zjo.ta= lktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm
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