Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8357F380000A1; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SEFcv-0002um-5h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:55:05 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SEFcu-0002ud-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:55:04 +0100 Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SEFcr-0003hr-KW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:55:04 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q317suUw022201 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:54:56 -0400 Received: from core-msa005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.81]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EE317E000082 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:54:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CEDDE7C797C0FB-1AAC-F23D@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> <4F77FA63.1060009@freenet.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4F77FA63.1060009@freenet.de> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Markus Vester X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35834-STANDARD Received: from 77.190.69.213 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 01 Apr 2012 03:54:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEDDF3DC494AF4-11CC-DF33@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [77.190.69.213] Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:54:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1333266896; bh=5TfHqvMBaxI8K2lujxhydDhGpqrip90fcOBUy0xqCVc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mhHjjCo3FKrzJ7qmAAwb7zHNrc1xVtXRdVEmc1G8WOWP3XdctPxLCKi1H6Of8KLUy tt1tTtu00bnCXWxtVQnK1iz9QrmqIR42qSe4t7C2evKQpNTZi106x2Vt+X+yNig9fc N0IrOYh73ZZ1rERCnqH90qFS4bJ23uiho3rZ/BNw= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:480868576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE=1.543,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_ULF:_11.6_=C2=B5Hz_tr?= =?utf-8?Q?ansmission?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CEDDF3DCDF4290_11CC_37B45_webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:496218400:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m020.2 ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40924f780a0b01de X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CEDDF3DCDF4290_11CC_37B45_webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Good morning Wolf, LF, thanks for the hint on the OAM antenna. No, the work of our group is not re= lated to the Navy, and our sub-ground antenna concept is not based on the w= ell known but disputed Bockshorn effect. Our antenna is actually very narro= wband and cannot easily be retuned, which so fare has made it difficult to = impose any significant modulation on the carrier.=20 However there is a similarity in we are also radiating a circular polarized= field - not unlike the former 76 Hz antenna pair in the US. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: wolf_dl4yhf An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 1 Apr 2012 6:52 am Betreff: Re: ULF: 11.6 =C2=B5Hz transmission Hello Markus and group, I will certainly look out for the signal. Only have to modify the soundcard= 's input coupling capacitor a tiny bit, guess I must connect a second capac= itor in parallel. But sure there is something suitable in the junk-box.=20 Are you, by chance, using a modified OAM antenna for transmission as used b= y the German Navy near the danish border (see Peter's article). If so, is t= he inner circle's rotation frequency equal to the transmit frequency ? Good luck and all the best, Wolf . Am 01.04.2012 08:28, schrieb Markus Vester:=20 Dear LF, =20 in a joint project including a number of radio amateurs, our group is worki= ng on a large experimental earth-antenna system, which is able to radiate a= n ultra-low frequency signal at low power.=20 =20 We are currently transmitting an unmodulated test carrier on 11.60576 =C2= =B5Hz, and (according to our measurements) are achieving a radiated power o= f 16 microwatts. Frequency stability is on the order of 1e-8, which should = enable narrow bandwidth observations with high sensitivity. =20 The transmission has been on air for a while. Any reception reports (especi= ally of far-field detections) would be much appreciated. =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----------MB_8CEDDF3DCDF4290_11CC_37B45_webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Good morning Wolf, LF,
 
thanks for the hint on the OAM antenna. No, the work of our group is n= ot related to the Navy, and our sub-ground antenna concept is not based on = the well known but disputed Bockshorn effect. Our antenna is actually = very narrowband and cannot easily be retuned, which so fare has made&n= bsp;it difficult to impose any significant modulation on the carrier. =
 
However there is a similarity in we are also radiating a circular= polarized field - not unlike the former 76 Hz antenna pair in the US.
 
Best 73,
Markus


= -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 1 Apr 2012 6:52 am
Betreff: Re: ULF: 11.6 =C2=B5Hz transmission

Hello Markus an= d group,

I will certainly look out for the signal. Only have to modify the soundcard= 's input coupling capacitor a tiny bit, guess I must connect a second capac= itor in parallel. But sure there is something suitable in the junk-box. Are you, by chance, using a modified OAM antenna for transmission as used b= y the German Navy near the danish border (see Peter's article). If so, is t= he inner circle's rotation frequency equal to the transmit frequency ?

Good luck and all the best,
  Wolf .



Am 01.04.2012 08:28, schrieb Markus Vester:=20
Dear LF,
 
in a joint project including a number of radio amateurs, our group is = working on a large experimental earth-antenna system, which is able to radi= ate an ultra-low frequency signal at low power.
 
We are currently transmitting an unmodulated test carrier on 11.60576 = =C2=B5Hz, and (according to our measurements) are achieving a radiated powe= r of 16 microwatts. Frequency stability is on the order of 1e-8, which shou= ld enable narrow bandwidth observations with high sensitivity.
 
The transmission has been on air for a while. Any reception reports (e= specially of far-field detections) would be much appreciated.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

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