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Results from the first 'plug and play' 'peoples' beacon, seem to = show , DX operation on 136 is not quite as difficult as was = perhaps made out , from the first TA decode of OP8 , using a = Parasol-on-a-Stick , with a few hundred watts , to RA3AGC long wire = to the trees , with similar power and PA0A 'small array' .. 2000 Kmtr = + decodes are showing up on a quite regular basis , may be more = than that offered by 500 KHz ? VK 136 operators have expressed interest in setting up sked's to = make, what could be the first full call sign decode , to down = under, but to date, it seems there are no transmit takers this = side ,=20 Technically, the processing gain of OP32 , is very close to the = estimated -40 dB path loss , EU-VK and should require 16 mins = of carrier above the s/n threshold in 32 mins to decode ... Anyone tempted to make a sked ? G,, 24 hour usage from http://pskreporter.info/pskmapn.html Txmtr Rcvr Band Mode Distance Time (UTC)=20 7L1RLL 7L1RLL 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:54:58=20 PA3BHT PA3BHT 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:53:41=20 PA0WMR PA0WMR 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:45:35=20 JH1ARY JH1ARY 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:43:42=20 UA0SNV-1 UA0SNV-1 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:36:19=20 JP1ODJ JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:34:55=20 JF1PSS JF1PSS 2200m OPERA 0 kms 07:38:29=20 UA0SNV UA0SNV 2200m OPERA 0 kms 07:33:19=20 JH1INM JH1INM 2200m OPERA 0 kms 06:39:52=20 JA8SCD JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 0 kms 06:29:50=20 7L1RLL JH1INM 2200m OPERA 76 kms 03:34:10=20 7L1RLL JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 26 kms 03:34:10=20 7L1RLL JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 50 kms 03:34:09=20 JH1GVY JH1GVY 2200m OPERA 0 kms 03:03:32=20 JH1GVY JH1INM 2200m OPERA 99 kms 02:53:27=20 JH1GVY JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 18 kms 02:53:27=20 JH1GVY JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 29 kms 02:53:26=20 JH1GVY JH1ARY 2200m OPERA 8 kms 02:53:26=20 JH1GVY 7L1RLL/1 2200m OPERA 35 kms 02:53:25=20 JF1PSS JF1PSS 2200m OPERA 0 kms 00:05:54=20 JH1GVV JH1GVV 2200m OPERA 0 kms 23:52:38=20 RN3AGC RN3AGC 2200m OPERA 0 kms 22:14:04=20 PA0A PA0A 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:41:06=20 PA0A RW3ADB 2200m OPERA 2017 kms 21:39:21=20 PA0A RN3AGC 2200m OPERA 2020 kms 21:39:04=20 RW3ADB RW3ADB 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:29:27=20 G0KYE G0KYE 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:24:03=20 PA3ABK PA3ABK 2200m OPERA 0 kms 20:36:47=20 PA0OCD PA0OCD 2200m OPERA 0 kms 19:45:48=20 G8HUH G8HUH 2200m OPERA 0 kms 19:01:25=20 PA0OCD PA0A 2200m OPERA 128 kms 18:50:46=20 G4MDH G4MDH 2200m OPERA 0 kms 18:32:30=20 YO2LDK YO2LDK 2200m OPERA 0 kms 18:31:21=20 PA0OCD PA3ABK 2200m OPERA 62 kms 17:44:05=20 LZ1LZ LZ1LZ 2200m OPERA 0 kms 15:12:01=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CD1EE9.4EEFE410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have the high power operators on 136  been  keeping  = the  real  potential  of  136 = propagation  =20 a  secret  ?  writing you  name in neon light is one = thing ,=20 but  behind the  glow  of the sign , = previously  un=20 seen, the data recording  Op beacon system is  starting = to =20 reveal  some  interesting  features of this  = band.
 
Results  from the  first  'plug and play'=20  'peoples'  beacon,  seem  to  show , DX=20 operation  on 136  is  not quite as  difficult  = as=20 was  perhaps  made out , from the  first  TA =20 decode  of  OP8  , using a Parasol-on-a-Stick  , = with a=20 few  hundred watts  , to  RA3AGC long wire  to = the =20 trees , with  similar  power and PA0A 'small array' .. 2000 = Kmtr =20 +  decodes  are showing up on a  quite  regular = basis , may=20 be more  than that  offered  by  500 KHz = ?
 
VK  136 operators  have expressed  interest in  = setting  up  sked's  to make, what  could be = the =20 first full  call  sign  decode  , to down under, but = to  date, it  seems  there  are no  =20 transmit  takers this  side ,
 
Technically, the  processing  gain of OP32  , = is =20 very  close to the estimated   -40 dB  path  = loss  ,=20 EU-VK and  should  require  16  mins  of=20 carrier  above the  s/n threshold in 32 mins  =  to =20 decode  ...
 
Anyone  tempted to make  a sked  ?
 
G,,
 
24 hour  usage from   http://pskreporter.info/psk= mapn.html
 
Txmtr Rcvr Band Mode Distance Time (UTC) 7L1RLL 7L1RLL 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:54:58 PA3BHT PA3BHT 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:53:41 PA0WMR PA0WMR 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:45:35 JH1ARY JH1ARY 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:43:42 UA0SNV-1 UA0SNV-1 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:36:19 JP1ODJ JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 0 kms 09:34:55 JF1PSS JF1PSS 2200m OPERA 0 kms 07:38:29 UA0SNV UA0SNV 2200m OPERA 0 kms 07:33:19 JH1INM JH1INM 2200m OPERA 0 kms 06:39:52 JA8SCD JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 0 kms 06:29:50 7L1RLL JH1INM 2200m OPERA 76 kms 03:34:10 7L1RLL JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 26 kms 03:34:10 7L1RLL JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 50 kms 03:34:09 JH1GVY JH1GVY 2200m OPERA 0 kms 03:03:32 JH1GVY JH1INM 2200m OPERA 99 kms 02:53:27 JH1GVY JA8SCD 2200m OPERA 18 kms 02:53:27 JH1GVY JP1ODJ 2200m OPERA 29 kms 02:53:26 JH1GVY JH1ARY 2200m OPERA 8 kms 02:53:26 JH1GVY 7L1RLL/1<= /A> 2200m OPERA 35 kms 02:53:25 JF1PSS JF1PSS 2200m OPERA 0 kms 00:05:54 JH1GVV JH1GVV 2200m OPERA 0 kms 23:52:38 RN3AGC RN3AGC 2200m OPERA 0 kms 22:14:04 PA0A PA0A 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:41:06 PA0A RW3ADB 2200m OPERA 2017 kms 21:39:21 PA0A RN3AGC 2200m OPERA 2020 kms 21:39:04 RW3ADB RW3ADB 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:29:27 G0KYE G0KYE 2200m OPERA 0 kms 21:24:03 PA3ABK PA3ABK 2200m OPERA 0 kms 20:36:47 PA0OCD PA0OCD 2200m OPERA 0 kms 19:45:48 G8HUH G8HUH 2200m OPERA 0 kms 19:01:25 PA0OCD PA0A<= /TD> 2200m OPERA 128 kms 18:50:46 G4MDH G4MDH 2200m OPERA 0 kms 18:32:30 YO2LDK YO2LDK 2200m OPERA 0 kms 18:31:21 PA0OCD PA3ABK 2200m OPERA 62 kms 17:44:05 LZ1LZ LZ1LZ 2200m OPERA 0 kms 15:12:01
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