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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Mauro, I am not sure you are asking the right question. Do you think that digital modes will give you better reception or more stations than QRSS? If you can't receive other QRSS stations, you may not get any improvement from data modes. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [81.103.221.48 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: LF: info about better digital mode in 2200m band Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:400923776:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40c94f9956506f63 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mauro, I am not sure you are asking the right question. Do you think that digital modes will give you better reception or more stations than QRSS? If you can't receive other QRSS stations, you may not get any improvement from data modes. When you refer to DK7FC's beacon, do you mean QRSS3 or the slower DX mode like QRSS60 (60 second dots)? If you can only receive Stefan's QRSS60, it would be much better to try to improve your station than changing modes. With a good station, you should be able to receive several QRSS3 stations around Europe (137.700kHz), and QRSS60 stations from the US and Russia (around 137.777kHz). If you have a high local noise, a directional antenna may work better than the mini-whip. Is the mini-whip set up correctly? It is possible for noise to be accidentally introduced onto the coax. The only advantage to be gained from data modes is that you can 'receive' the stations when you are away from the shack. There is little, if any improvement in the reception of very weak signals. If you would like me to transmit a QRSS3 beacon for you, please let me know. 73 de Mike, G3XDV =============== > what is the better digital mode for starting listening 137 KHz > band as "reverse beacon" (no TX)?? > ("better" = greater number of active stations in Europe) > > WSPR ?? LENTUS ?? OPERA ?? > > what frequency is utilized for those modes ??? > > thanks in advance to all .. > > 73 de Mauro IK1WVQ > > P.S.: my RX station is : PA0RDT 8 meters over the roof, RACALL 1792 .. > not great station at all .. in QRSS mode the only station what I can > receive is the "broadcast (HI!)" beacon of Stefan DK7FC .. NO OTHER > ... > > >