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Am 25.04.2012 14:54, schrieb qrss: > Hi Stefan > > The expert has arrived, we knew it was simple :-) "Expert" is very relative! Somehow we are all experts. But it feels=20 strange to me to be called an expert. > > When you TX on 8.9kHz again will it be on a preferred frequency of=20 > yours which you can tell me now? If so what will it be please. No VLF tests planned this weekend. I have to make some days holidays=20 over the weekend :-( Hopefully there is WLAN so i can run a temporary LF=20 Grabber, HI. Nothing exciting, just a QTH in west Germany... 73, Stefan > > 73 Eddie > > On 25/04/2012 13:10, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> Am 25.04.2012 11:12, schrieb PA1SDB, Peter: >>> Hello VLF, >>> I like to do some local test here with Spectrum lab setings (and who=20 >>> knows, High ERP transmissions later :-) >>> I have here a notebook that generates a signal with the Signal=20 >>> generator in Spectrum Lab at 8970.1 Hz. >>> It has a Loop connected at the input and thats how it is locked to a=20 >>> GDO (HWU, FTA, what is available) >>> I tried several, and that Lock wondow gets green, but output looks=20 >>> terrible. >>> To radiate the signal I use a pice of wire at the notebook LS output. >>> Below two grab's over the same periode of time. >>> My localy generated signal at 8970.100 Hz and for comparison the=20 >>> signal of DJ8WX at 8970.022 Hertz. >>> Both grab's are made with the same Spectrum Lab task. >>> Why does my signal look like a widband FM transmission ? >> >> That can happen when multiple phase glitches occur on the PC, sound=20 >> output. Try to use a different sample rate, maybe 44100 instead of 480= 00. >> Try to run SL exclusively, i.e. no other programs and internet usage=20 >> (everthing that may take a high CPU load) and see if it makes a=20 >> difference. >> The signal of DJ8WX is clear. That reduces the possible errors... >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4957 - Release Date: 04/24= /12 >> > --------------070309060102070404000904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eddie.

Am 25.04.2012 14:54, schrieb qrss:
Hi Stefan

The expert has arrived, we knew it was simple :-)
"Expert" is very relative! Somehow we are all experts. But it feels strange to me to be called an expert.


When you TX on 8.9kHz again will it be on a preferred frequency of yours which you can tell me now? If so what will it be please.
No VLF tests planned this weekend. I have to make some days holidays over the weekend :-( Hopefully there is WLAN so i can run a temporary LF Grabber, HI. Nothing exciting, just a QTH in west Germany...

73, Stefan



73 Eddie

On 25/04/2012 13:10, Stefan Schäfer wrote:
Hi Peter,

Am 25.04.2012 11:12, schrieb PA1SDB, Peter:
Hello VLF,
I like to do some local test here with Spectrum lab setings (and who knows, High ERP transmissions later  :-)
I have here a notebook that generates a signal with the Signal generator in Spectrum Lab at 8970.1 Hz.
It has a Loop connected at the input and thats how it is locked to a GDO (HWU, FTA, what is available)
I tried several, and that Lock wondow gets green, but output looks terrible.
To radiate the signal I use a pice of wire at the notebook LS output.
 
Below two grab's over the same periode of time.
My localy generated signal at 8970.100 Hz and for comparison the signal of DJ8WX at 8970.022 Hertz.
 
Both grab's are made with the same Spectrum Lab task.
 
Why does my signal look like a widband FM transmission ?

That can happen when multiple phase glitches occur on the PC, sound output. Try to use a different sample rate, maybe 44100 instead of 48000.
Try to run SL exclusively, i.e. no other programs and internet usage (everthing that may take a high CPU load) and see if it makes a difference.
The signal of DJ8WX is clear. That reduces the possible errors...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4957 - Release Date: 04/24/12


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