Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B123F380000A3; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 03:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SH9HS-0001yV-Ih for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:44:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SH9HS-0001yM-1N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:44:54 +0100 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SH9HQ-0004DP-0y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:44:54 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBADCSgk9cGSwx/2dsb2JhbAANIRaFZrZaAQEBAQMjDwEFMBARCwkPAgIFCgwLAgIJAwIBAgFFEwgBAYgVpzaSIoEviWmCHoIMgRgEjgaEAIR3kg0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,393,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="524005254" Received: from host-92-25-44-49.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([92.25.44.49]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2012 08:44:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4F82936C.5050400@talktalk.net> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:44:44 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4F803F91.80007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1333806691.2036.3.camel@gerhard-desktop-acer> <4F813C2D.3010500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4F815F15.2070002@talktalk.net> <4F8212ED.8000502@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4F8212ED.8000502@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: VLF: Local VLF tests... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:385843776:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604b4f8293c92c9a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan My fault on the frequency, I must pay more attention, you are generating with SpecLab and you did say > The QRG is centered at 8969.98000 Hz. The DFCW shift is 3 mHz. To be pedantic that is DFCW with a shift of +1.5mHz and -1.5mHz and CF of 8969.98000.:-) :-) However I had lost frequency lock on 424uHz anyway. When ever I look at your second Grabber it is dead, like NOW, so I didn't look to compare, and I was in the garden planting out so as to catch this lovely Bank Holiday rain.:-) 73 Eddie On 08/04/2012 23:36, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > Hi Eddie, > > I don't think this is my signal. The DFCW shift is 3 mHz, so my upper > frequency is 8969.98150 Hz. BTW my FFT and scroll rate settings are > the same as used in the typical DFCW-6000 SL instance used by many VLF > Grabber operator, like yours :-) So it should be easy to compare the > traces. > > Unfortunately the upload of my normal LF and VLF grabber is off now. > However you can follow the transmission in the 424 uHz window at > http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html > One call takes about 3 days :-) Soon i will try QRO and DFCW-60000, > just for fun :-) > > Good luck anyway and thanks for watching for the weak signal. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 08.04.2012 11:49, schrieb qrss: >> Stefan >> >> There is a common start / finish minute on the dots in the >> att.capture.HH.m3 to the best of my measurement ability, they >> certainly coincide with your TX periods. >> >> 73 Eddie G3ZJO >> >> Grabber:- http://g3zjo.bplaced.net/index.htm >> >> Also :- http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm >> >> On 08/04/2012 08:20, Stefan Schäfer wrote: >>> Hi Gerhard, >>> >>> Yes, of course. I just meant the "official" researchers who do that >>> work as their job to earn money and (have to) publish their work on >>> conferences and in various papers. For them it is important to be >>> "the first" one who describes a phenomen. We are in the situation to >>> do what we want to do, just for fun and extremely relaxed :-) If our >>> work is "new" then it is fine and if it is "re-inventing the wheel" >>> then it is fine too :-) >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> Am 07.04.2012 15:51, schrieb Gerhard Hickl: >>>> Stefan ! >>>> >>>> I think WE ARE researchers in some way. Maybe not all of us do have >>>> the >>>> theoretical background which is "necessary" do to "real" research >>>> (whatever that means) but sometimes I think this could be an >>>> advantage. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> OE3GHB >>>> Gerhard >>>> >>> >>> >> > >